Bartender TimberCoast 22

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Phil Barnes

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1991
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22 Cruiser
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Swan-C
I came across several threads on the site on the aluminum TimberCoast 22 by Bartender and realized that this boat is for sale at EQ Harbor Marine on Whidbey Island. I think it may be the only one built in aluminum. Designed by Tad Roberts a naval architect on Gabriola Island. An interesting design with cozy accommodations. I think it might be a pretty tight space for most couples but might make a wonderful single handler for someone who wanted efficient displacement cruising. It is a very different boat from the CD 22, which I like for our use in PNW cruising. I have no association with the owner but am always interested in the design of small cruising boats for the PNW.

Some photos of the boat and unique interior are here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/58177895@ ... 980781279/
 
Thanks for the link to this neat boat. I had seen photo only of the exterior of this troller.

Although this boat has a 29 HP Beta diesel, it would be ideal for a 9 hp SABB diesel--single cylinder (controllable pitch prop), which should push it at 6+ knots with a range of over 500 miles, using less than half a gallon an hour of diesel fuel.

The boat linked to is a fantastic design with first grade finish!
 
Tad has some great designs. He lives not far from me on Gabriola Island. He has a very good eye for detail
George
 
I have followed this design from its inception, beginning with an out of the blue session with the designer and the guy who oversaw its construction and outfitting. It would be a killer Inside Passage cruiser. Not the boat I would pick for a tuna run out of the Columbia River ... too slow ... but an incredible small cruiser for gunkholing.
 
She now wears a kicker on the stern. It was under contract not long ago but fell out. Les said it was well north of 120K to build. To me, it is a one person boat. It has a full camper back also now.
Bob
 
Am I missing something on this boat such as "it is not the design of the original Bartender" George Calkins was the designer of the Bartender wasn't he? It is a neat boat and looks like one I saw constructed of wood. Any idea what they are asking for the boat?
 
Ron Cowan":3l35qflt said:
Am I missing something on this boat such as "it is not the design of the original Bartender" George Calkins was the designer of the Bartender wasn't he? It is a neat boat and looks like one I saw constructed of wood. Any idea what they are asking for the boat?
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It is listed with EQ Marine. I think it’s $79k. I really like this design. With the steadying sails, I’m guessing it’s a comfortable ride, but I agree with Dave... Not a boat I’d want to take across a rough bar.
 
Ron, this link should fill in the blanks. https://bartenderboats.com/product/22-timbercoast/

The aluminum version Timber Coast is a one off constructed for a client who admired the design, but wanted an aluminum hull. I believe there are a few plywood Timber Coasts on the water, all homebuilt, varying power plants.

Bartender Boats is in its third owner, the first indeed being George Calkins, who passed away in 2008, leaving behind plans for three different length Bartenders, the vessel type you know, with a fourth variant at 20.5 feet, a modernized and slightly larger hull drawn from the 19 ft hull by the second owner, Bill Childs. All are plywood-based planing hull designs focusing on superior rough water handling, having two pointy ends. Some are outboards set in a well, others run inboard engines. The name came from their use on Oregon coastal bays and rivers, running over bars to fish for salmon. A few 22s saw limited USCG service as patrol boats. All this is delineated on the web site above, if you go to the root and explore.

I built a "stretched" 19 cuddy cabin cruiser, which came in at 20' 4", powered by a 2.2 L Westerbeke gasoline inboard, which Becky and I ran in the San Juans, the Gulf Islands, and on the Columbia for three seasons before selling it to a Portland couple. That hull is the nominal forerunner for the 20.5 ft hull, much improved. These are fun boats to run, but are best suited for day use or by cruising folks adapted to backpacker style cabin living. They are at their best when built light, for optimal planing performance.

The Timber Coast was a response to the impending rise in fuel costs, circa 2008, and an attempt to enter the small cruiser market for homebuilders looking for an efficient, displacement hull. It is a scant market, but Tad Roberts did a bangup job on it. It has many interesting features, and a lot of utility in a small package. No, they are not cheap, either in plywood or in aluminum.
 
i have seen several of the plywood bartenders, with what i might describe as planing tabs also called ''Winglets''--to avoid squat and roll at intermediate speeds. i don't know how effective they are, but they have been added to a variety of true dory types to stabilize at higher speeds under power.
 
thataway":3guxw5i8 said:
i have seen several of the plywood bartenders, with what i might describe as planing tabs also called ''Winglets''--to avoid squat and roll at intermediate speeds. i don't know how effective they are, but they have been added to a variety of true dory types to stabilize at higher speeds under power.
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On plane, those spray rail surfaces are out of the water, although they may assist in getting on plane. They seem to stabilize turns. They are certainly a PITA to fabricate!
 
Thanks for the info. and update on what I was missing. This site is great to fill in blanks on interesting subjects. You guys in the North West have or had some real talent in boat designers. The Alweather was another neat boat from there as well as C-Dory, Ranger and other current boats.
 
That is one beautiful boat with tons of advantages sxcept one; the economy and/at speed of the C-Dory. For 90% of my cruising, it would be perfect, but if you need to scoot, for weather or tide reasons, I think it would be found lacking. But, it is gorgeous.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
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