anyone ever use this system?

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Jake B

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alnxr9it ... e=youtu.be

was wondering if anyone has ever used this way to anchor before? until we go windlass this is they way I am leaning to keep from going to the bow all the time. my main question is even with the quick release wouldn't you still bee hooked by the bow? and anyone have any pictures of there set ups as I would be interested in seeing how it is fully rigged but cannot seem to find a better video than this.
 
I've watched the video 5 times now and I'm still not sure I understand the rig. Seems to me the anchor line must run through the one-way pulley forward of the steel ring, and the one-way pulley would also be attached to the buoy by a short length of line. Then when the anchor is broken out it'll be lifted by the forward motion of the boat until the chain hits the one-way pulley.

Also, I tried Google for "one-way pulley" and didn't see one similar to the one in the video. Anyone know the brand and name of this device, or where it could be bought?
 
A fair number of fisherman on The Hull Truth use this system--or a modification there of. The snap shackle shown is known as a "spinaker" shackle, and it opens up fully, to avoid fouling.

You are more likely to find this pulley under "ratchet", "cam" or "rescue Pulley". I agree the video is confusing--many folks do not use a "one way pulley", but use the ball and ring to pull the anchor out, then they just hand over hand it up to the boat. The one way pulley, just keeps the anchor and chain from going back down to the bottom and less depth to bring it up from.

However, a couple of years ago, one of the guys father's leg got caught in the line as they were pulling the anchor--and he went overboard, and was killed. So there is some risk with this system…..The son took the blame because he did not stop the boat fast enough-- pretty bought situation.

This is really only for day time type of anchoring--too many issues for an overnight, unattended, go to sleep type of anchoring.
 
We've anchored with the buoy ring system hundreds of times for halibut fishing when we lived in Alaska. We didn't use a pulley, just the ring and buoy. It is simple, safe, and effortless. You have to pay attention no matter how you anchor.

To retrieve, we simply drove forward keeping the line at an angle from the side of the boat (always on the stbd side so I could see the line) and drove in a gradual right turn until the anchor caught the ring. Then stop the boat and easily pull the line in because the anchor is caught in the ring. The buoy floats the weight of the anchor. Super simple.

Rick
 
I too got confused with the video a little. the main thing i wanted to do was anchor from the cockpit and after reading on stern anchor pulling more I think I am just going to run a 1/2" rope from the bow cleat back to the cockpit tie off to the stern cleat with a carabiner and then attach another carabiner to the end of anchor rope. attach the two and that will keep me on the deck to release and end up with a bow anchor and bow retrieve when its time to free it up. thanks for all the input. I have anchored drift boats and open boats this is the first year trying to anchor a cabin boat that has limited bow access
 
If you are going to anchor that way (and be sure and know the rating of Carabiners--many are low SWL.) then have a second rope a little longer than the line to the bow, plus the distance from the bow to the stern. That will allow you to bring the rode back to the stern for manual retrieval of the anchor.

Anchoring by the stern, can be dangerous--but only in certain circumstances. There are many places where it is the norm to anchor both bow and stern. Anchoring bow and stern keeps the bow into waves coming into an anchorage. It prevents the boat from swinging in an arc, and will allow many more boats in a given area. For example one of the clubs has a cove at Catalina Island where you can literally walk from boat to boat on a holiday weekend. Almost like rafting up.

The worry about stern anchoring is that waves will come from the stern and swamp the boat--this can be both wind driven waves or wakes.
 
thanks for the info i will make sure and check the strength of the clips. is there a better way to attach them? shackle?

also I only plan to bow anchor at this time just doing so from the cockpit.
 
This system has been around for many years.
http://ezmarine.com/all_ez_marine_produ ... e_in_u.htm

I have it and have used it many many times without incident. A couple of differences I see from the way he has it set up. I always anchor off the bow as he has but don't run a rope to the stern for quick release. Great if you don't have help on the boat to release the bow tie.

As you noticed his system release runs through the rope. Good system but since it's invention there is a new and improved product that clips on to the rope after you have the anchor down and in place so you don't have to fight the release and buoy. Cost about the same and is really the best way to go. Sorry that I don't have link to show it to you but I'm confident you can Google it.
 
thanks and yes the retrieval system we have is the type that clips on after the anchor is deployed not like the one shown that you have to pay all the line through.
 
I use the pull the buoy system that slips down the line on a ring or snap and pulls the anchor always from the bow. If the anchor hangs up the boat will start going in a circle and eventually it comes loose.

I would NEVER...NEVER pull anything from a stern cleat. If the anchor hung up and you were slow on the throttle the boat will be pulled down on the stern filling it quickly with very cold water and your day would be totally ruined.

I have pulled as I described probably 750 times in 30 yrs in the Cook Inlet and have never had a problem. Water depth anywhere from 75 to 160' deep and 600' of line out.

Too many boats have been pulled under here and I am not a genius but I am also not a slow learner.
 
Yes I do. My boat has a walk-around cabin so getting to the bow is safe and simple. That is why I bought that boat. I am getting too old (74) and clumsy to be scooting out on the deck around the cabin on the gunnel.

When I still had my 22' CD I handled the anchor and line from the back but ALWAYS pulled from the bow.
 
The style in the Video is a river type of anchor--with little chain. If this much speed and HP were required to pull the anchor I can see an objection to pulling from the stern. I have pulled anchors from the stern by slowly pulling with minimal HP, pretty much the same way you break an anchor out by the bow. My understanding is that Jake wants to avoid going forward on the boat to get his anchor back into the cockpit. (Of course there is always opening the forward hatch.
 
jack when you had your 22 how did you connect to the bow from the cockpit?

thataway yes I am trying to deploy and set my anchor from the cockpit but have it attached at the bow with the easiest system I can use. for retrieving i can just the buoy system posted above and motor away and a slight turn. once up I can retrieve rode from the cockpit as well.

I thought about the hatch but don’t want to drag milk crate through cabin and don’t want to deal with potential messy line up where we sleep.

the one thing I am for sure trying to avoid is walking the narrow gunnel up to the bow to launch and retrieve anchor essp. in a swell.

my current plan I think keeps it as simple as long as i find clamps that can hold the stress the anchor will put on them.

at first I thought it made more sense to have the pressure on the stern when retrieving the anchor until i read more about the stuck anchor that could happen and potentially swamp boat on stern vs pull bow into a circle.
 
so having trouble finding quick clamps that can hold the potential load. so now i am thinking of shackle to connect 20' of bow line to rode. and will this be a sufficient hold for overnight as well as fishing?

we plan to stay on a mooring ball this weekend after fishing and was also planning on shackle attaching bowline too.
 
Jake,

Sorry for the delay in responding.

I used a 600' 3/8" three strand line as I anchor in 150 to 20' of water and a 5 knot current.

The boat end of the line is run over the bow roller, through the deck cleat opening, around the port side of the cabin and cleated off to the rear cleat on the port gunnel. The other end of the system (line, chain and anchor) is put into a tall garbage can in the rear stbd. deck area with the anchor being the last thing in the can.
When deploying just put the anchor in the water followed by the chain and then the rest of the line letting it out cautiously ao as not to tangle. Snap the pulling buoy on while the line is going out. This all works fine if deploying the entire line like I usually do.
If you only need say 100' you need to first pull the line on the port side into the can until the anchor is hanging on the bow. Then let out the required line after the anchor set and cleat it off to the same cleat as the bitter end.
It can be cumbersome but it works and you never have to go up on deck or drag anything through the deck hatch.

I do not need to use that system on my present CD as it has safe access to the bow around the cabin on both sides. I keep the entire mess up there in a rubbermaid tub.
Good luck.

Jack
 
thanks Jack for the break down so you pre run through roller the open bow cleat but in the end you hitch it off back in the cock pit. but given the pre running the boat still sits on the anchor on the bow. I’ll give it a go this weekend. also those 26' pro anglers are sweet saw one 30 miles off la push this last weekend halibut fishing. Would be cool to acquire one of those someday.
 
We did it just as Jack describes but we never adjusted the line length because we always fished for halibut in 80-100 feet of water in Kodiak. We kept the line and anchor in a plastic laundry basket in the cockpit. There was no need to go fwd. Just drop the anchor over the side from the cockpit, clip on the ring and buoy, and let out all the line. We then backed down to set and started fishing. After pulling the anchor, we left the line/anchor in the basket in the cockpit.

Also just to clarify, we never cleated off the line to the stern when pulling, which is a huge no-no as was mentioned earlier.

Rick
 
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