A larger Marinuat (wherefor art thou)...

I just had a lengthy discussion with my wife about the options for the new, longer Marinaut. But, I'll get to that in a minute. First, a little about how we use our current boat.

We started with a CD 16, and while it's a great little boat, it just didn't have the space we needed for extended, multi-day trips in Prince William Sound. So, a few years back, we bought a 17-foot Arima Sea Ranger with a hard top. That extra foot in length, combined with an additional 1-1/2 feet of beam makes the Arima feel twice as big as the C-Dory was.

After adding some significant fuel capacity, and repowering to a modern fuel-injected 4-stroke, we are finally able to cruise PWS at our leisure, sometimes logging 250+ miles between ports. Over the years, I've added several amenities to improve the boat's performance and our comfort on our typical 3-4 day trips. These include hydraulic steering, trim tabs, a BBQ grill and gimbal stove. I even installed a Webasto diesel heater and now have dry heat and window defrost/defoggers. Heck, we even carry a portable propane shower to compliment the 14-gallon fresh water tank.

But, as many improvements as I've made, there are two things we both still want, both of which we will never be able to get in our current boat. First is more storage. I think we've found the limit of the storage capacity of a 17-foot boat. And second, but more important, we both want a real head. Sure, the porta-pot works. But, it's cumbersome and awkward. Especially using it in less than perfect sea conditions.

So, that brings us to our recent discussion about the Marinaut. Both of us love the lines of the M215. And we love the large V-berth (I'm 6-foot, 235 pounds). And, all else considered, it seems to be the perfect fit for our next purchase. But, the wife absolutely insists that any new boat we get will include a head. And she is getting no argument from me in that department. So, therein lies the problem.

Well, after a little poking around on the internet, I see that you are considering building a larger version of the M215, and that it would include a head. But, you are having trouble trying to decide just how big it needs to be.

So, if you want it, here's our two cents...

I know that we're not the typical user, and that we're not a very large section of the boating demographic. But I think stretching the M215 enough to add a head and sit-down shower (along with more storage) would make the most sense for us. We're not interested in twin motors, a transom door, or even extra room at the dinette. And, although it would be nice, we really don't need a stand up shower. Heck, right now we shower skin-to-the-wind in the cockpit. So, an indoor sit-down shower would certainly be sufficient to knock the crud off.

Again, I know you've got to sell more than one boat. But, if we had the choice, we'd prefer the economy and coziness of the stretched M215 over a wider, heavier, and presumably, less efficient M259. The M245 really does seem like the perfect "Couple's Cruiser".
 
starcrafttom":27p3z82p said:
portable propane shower

could you tells us more about this? I have seen them for sale but have not been able to talk to anyone that has one.

Hi Tom,

We used a portable propane shower on one of our sailboats. It worked fine; also good for washing dishes. The one we had came from Cabela's. It all packs in a shell case, and you can use the case for your water source/holder. The propane fires up a coil, 2 D batteries power a small pump. You can run the water back into the case while heating it up to get hot water faster. Once the water in the case is the temp you like, it's just a matter of turning the pump on and off on demand.

Realistically, it's not much different from a solar shower, with the exception that you can have hot water anytime, not just when the sun is out. I usually figured about 10 minutes to set it up and get the water circulating and hot enough to use.

Certainly, you can do that on the stove, too. This just gives you options when you don't want to fire up the stove. On our trimaran, we generally showered out on the nets; the propane shower is portable, so it can sit out on the deck.

We use the shower in our C-Dory. Each day. No fuss. Turn on the water pump and the 6 gallon water heater easily gives two showers and dish washing.

The model propane shower we have is a Zodi, if you want to look them up.

Best wishes,
Jim
 
Thanks for the report. the unit looks great but I just wanted to here that from someone. I think it would work well for us in the 27. I'm also lookin into running a cooper line thru the diesel heater n the boat. Not sure I want to take apart a 600 dollar heater and mess with it.
 
Tom,

Toby and I also use the Zodi Camp Shower in our 22 Cruiser. I set the unit up on the Bait / Cooking table over the motor well and then stand on the swim deck to shower. Very quick and easy and we have learned to both bathe with a total of about 5 gallons of water. The little battery powered pump spray head is more than adequate to rinse the soap out of your hair and off your body. We would highly recommend it. Pictures in our Album.

Tad
 
Yes that's the unit I was thinking of. I may try to plump it into the water supply with a quick disconnect at the bulk head. So many ideas and so little time. We tried the sun bag this last trip and despite it being hot most of the time I doubt the water temp in the bag every got close to anything that could be considered warm. We never used it the whole week out of complete fear of freezing to death.

but we need to get back to letting les talk about his boat. sorry les :roll:
 
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