A fishing C-Dory Classic

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Larry H

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Brats,

We have a new member who has purchased a 22 Classic for handtrolling in SE Alaska.

I want to welcome Bruce (whojigger) to the board. I have known Bruce since 1989 when he was a fishing guide in Sointula, BC. He plans on hand trolling salmon around the Ketchikan area. Hand trolling is a commercial fishery where the trolling downrigger lines are cranked up by hand.

Here is a photo:
Summer_07_quarter_away.jpg

His album starts here: http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?...ame=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
 
welcome aboard!
is there anything these boats can't do?
right when you've thought you've seen it all, boom! something bigger and better than before.
i think you'll find this a great place to give and receive advice and/or just good fellowship.
good luck and stay tuned!
pat
 
Welcome aboard whojigger.

I like to see boats that are different from run of the mill boats and yours certainly qualifies. Don't let Jim (Wild Blue) see your boat, he will want to put a set of sails on it.
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Larry found the Sea Mist over in Craig last summer and took pictures for me. I was planning on making modifications to my Crestliner to troll and wanted ideas. When the Sea Mist was put on the market in January, I called and gave him earnest money till I could get over to Craig (on POW and Ketchikan is on Revilla=500.oo ferry ride.) Needs lots of work but sound overall. Yes, there are stablizers flying from the tips of the poles when lowered. Not a critical need but sure makes the ride nice when you're in abeam seas. I figure her to be a perfect hobby troller as I don't plan to run the whole season and make her pay. Just want to be able to catch as many fish as I want, not as many as I can.
 
You don't see boats rigged like that in Alabama. Welcome aboard Bruce (whojigger). I guess will be seeing lots of fish pictures in your album :lol:
 
Welcome aboard Jeff;

Great boat.. We are planning to fish a Hand troll out of our Tomcat this year. We will use only rod & reel and fish mostly out of Cross Sound area. We will be in Ketchikan near the third week in June and be at Sitka before the July 1st King opener. This seems like a great adventure. I'll e-mail you to talk about specifics.

Gene Morris
 
welcome to the pub, that's a mighty fishy looking boat there

Gene- Cross Sound? watch out for those durn charter boat folks....I'll probably see you around three hill island this summer :) pop into Elfin Cove and I'll buy you a beer.

You should check these folks out if you haven't allready
http://www.fairweatherfish.com/

I spotted a 22' C-D angler doing the commercial hand troll thing last summer...it got me to thinking, but it looks like the charter thing is a bit more profitable

good luck to ya's
 
As Larry introduced me on this thread, I was chartering out of Sointulla B.C. when I met them. I did that for 14 years then a bit of gill netting in Bristol Bay. I'm not sure which was harder work. The thing that gets me in the mood to hand troll is 10.57 a pound in the round!!! Doesn't take too many fish to make it pay! I have a house on the beach just north of Pond Reef so I can launch the Sea Mist from the house at half tide. It also means I have to be back at half tide so this is a perfect way to limit my time on the water having fun instead of working hard, smiling at the clients, bust in line to get 30 seconds soak .... Yep, a troller is what I need to be.
 
After reading the link to fair-weather fish I have hope to eat restaurants salmon again. I hate seeing restaurants list "wild salmon' or "wild steelhead" on the menu. I have even seen "long line halibut" bragged about on the menu of big name restaurants in the Seattle area. Wild salmon cannot be kept here so why is it ok to catch them in the north BEFORE they return here??? Long lining is an awful way to fish that accounts for lots of by catch. Netting in the sound or any other place for that matter should be outlawed. I support fish farming because it's support to decrease the pressure on wild fish, it has huge problems of its own but I believe that it can be changed in a way to solve most of it problems. And on top of it all the restaurants lie anyhow. At the bottom of the menu they tell you in small print that farmed or frozen fish can be substituted as any time. So who know what you are eating and where it can from. Sockeye goes on sell every year right after the tribes net the hell out of lake washington, a hatcher fish I know, along with all the cutt throut trout and silvers that are in the lake at theat time. We have netting for silvers in lake washington every year right when the kings are still trying to get to lake sammish and people wander why after millions of dollars we cant get that run to recover fully? I try to eat only my own fish but I fall off the wagon once in a while when out on the town with family and friends. Now I can look for troll caught fish. And tom why does that matter you say?? Because with troll caught fish you can weed out the wild fish and release them at the boat. No by catch that way. No more arguing about the amount of wild and listed stocks that can be kept by commercials. With troll only fishing it would be easy to have NO by caught listed fish. This should at least be done here in the states and mostly on the rivers. I am tired of dodging nets on rivers when I am out "catch and release" fishing listed stocks with barbless hooks, what’s the point if all the wild fish are in a net already? Now if I could get a list of restaurants that use Fair-weather fish I could eat out again.
 
Marty,

Chromer just got back from the Sol Duc River. Hand reeling up 12lb nate. 2 others LDR'd. Nice outriggers on that 22 I must say.
 
Sheesh...much as RF's ingenuity impresses me from time to time, this ain't one of them.

If the goal is to get a fish in the boat, this might be effective. If one enjoys the actual act of fishing, I can't see how that can be accomplished with tons of weight on the line, and a mechanized retrieve. When I yank my first butt up from the depths, I want to feel like I earned it...

Now...THIS is impressive. :mrgreen:
 
Bill,

As I understand it, the electric reels only handle the downrigger weights when salmon fishing. Using thinner but stronger line allows the downrigger weights to be lighter. The salmon are still brought in by hand on the manual reels, the same as using conventional downriggers.

The electrics, however, are used for bottom fishing as deep as 1150 ft.

Enjoying your vacation? Catching any fish?
 
Larry H":3qn6x3bn said:
As I understand it, the electric reels only handle the downrigger weights when salmon fishing. Using thinner but stronger line allows the downrigger weights to be lighter.
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Didn't catch that...but why can't the thinner/stronger line be used on a conventional downrigger?

Regardless, I'll let others do the explaining to F&G when they get approached for having too many lines in the water.

Enjoying your vacation? Catching any fish?
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Mostly work so far...relaxing starts tomorrow, at least that's what I'm telling myself. Word has it that the silvers are hot and heavy around Seiku, so they may be out in front of us shortly. Mr. C-Lou and I plan on hitting the water this coming weekend.
 
What great flagpoles for flying the C-Brats flag! (Suspect you've already gauged the clearance of those poles on those power lines at max high tide........ don't want to fry the salmon before it gets to market ) :lol:

Welcome aboard,

Chris
 
Bill said
...but why can't the thinner/stronger line be used on a conventional downrigger?
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Bill, Thats a good question, I hadn't thought of that. Greg says the braid is quieter than wire for the downrigger. Perhaps someone will try it and let us know.

Chris, Those 'flagpoles' are heavy duty VHF antennas and are strong enough to use as handholds.

BTW, This is not my boat, its RedFox Greg's from Alaska.

Larry H
 
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