A few more (novice) questions

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C-run Cutt

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My new-to-me 22' Angler (1982) has several long wooden skids along the hull. These skids are worn badly, and are starting to separate from the hull in places. I'd like to replace or remove them - suggestions on replacement materials or removal techniques?

Also... What's the difference between a 22 Angler and a 22 Classic? No, really. That's not the intro to a joke.

Many thanks,

C-run
 
Hi and welcome aboard,

Do a site search for "hull runners". I know there is some good discussion about your questions there. Some other owners have replaced the runners with wood, epoxied in place, others have glassed them in. There is some discussion there also about the proper length for the runners and so on. Search on "strake" as well.

Regards
 
Welcome and I feel sure you will love your 22 Angler. As far as the classic part..... and I may get shot out of the sky on this.... and own a classic myself.... but I think the "line in the sand"....or fiberglass as it may be, is when C-Dory made the "major" change on the bottom from having the flat section that on a "classic" runs the entire length of the boat.....where as the "modern"...or todays hull does not run flat all the way to the front. OK Guys... shoot me down if I am wrong...and what year did the designs change?

Good luck on your updates. Welcome again.

Byrdman
 
Also, the main difference between the angler and other similar models is that the angler has a little shorter cabin in exchange for a little longer cockpit.
 
C-Run – I have an even older version, a 1981 Angler, hull # 023. I think the Angler model applied back then, since they made both the Angler and Cruiser versions with the original flat hull. I think the “Classic” just refers to the hull design. I’m pretty sure they changed the hull design to a shallow vee around 1987. I have the original oak strakes like yours; I think there’s 7 on my boat. They’re attached with brass screws, and so far mine are still well attached. I did a bottom paint job a few years ago, 2 coats of epoxy and an epoxy-based bottom paint over the strakes and everything.

If the strakes are detaching from the hull you want to get on that problem right away, since the screw holes are ripe for water penetration in the balsa core, which ain’t good. I always thought the best fix would be to replace the oak strakes with square fiberglass bar stock, attached with fiberglass or epoxy resin, and no screws. I’ve never looked for square FG bar stock, but I bet some place like Tap Plastics might have it. You’d need to tear the old strakes out and do a thorough job filling the holes in the balsa core before glassing the new strakes on. It wouldn’t be a huge deal if it weren’t for the fact that you’re working upside-down under the boat. For now I just hope mine stay in well anchored.
 
My 1985 Angler has glassed in runners. Also it is my understanding that in the early Classic the only balsa coring is in the transon. The bottom is 1!/4 inch resin impregnated plywood. This come from the dealer who sold the boat in 1985. Of course it's covered with fiberglass. Jack on C-Otter.
 
Hi Folks,

My strakes are glassed on and very strong. I paint them with bottom paint.

A "classic" is a pre 1986 22' C Dory. The bottom was changed in 1986.

An "angler" is the shorter cabin/longer cockpit 22' C-Dory. My boat, when I bought it had a place to stand on either side of the motor well, so as to be able to fish off the stern. After seeing Magoo fill the spaces in for storage, I did the same. Then I added a stern seat in the cockpit, and a cockpit cover, windows and all. It makes a great "living room" that the newer 22' C-Dory's do not have.

Either way it is a compromise. (My galley is shorter as is my dinette table.)

Good luck,

Fred
 
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