3 grown men on an Angler 16

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Chuck Dory

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My mom gave my brother and I a check and told us to go buy our dad a boat. (Cool lady, eh?) She wants him out of the house once in a while.

We want something he can trailer (behind a Chevy 1500), launch, and handle by himself. He would prefer a cabin (but won't admit to it). The Angler 16 looks like a good fit, but if my brother and I (or my brother and teenage nephew) wanted to go with him could it work if somebody (aka my brother) was willing to wear his Grudens and sit on a cooler in the cockpit? Or would the 19 be better and something he could still handle on his own?

My friend has a Cruiser 22 up here in Alaska that I am very impressed with, but I think would be a bit much for my dad and he doesn't do overnights anyway. My parents live in Oregon and the boat will be mostly on the Columbia and Willamette rivers, maybe a lake or two here and there.

What say you oh great community of Dory-Meisters?
 
Hello From Iowa,

For whatever it's worth I turned 67 last March and handled our 22' by my self quite often.

However, handling our 16' is very easy for one person.

Regards,

Ron Fisher
 
For fishing and day trips the 16' should work well. When we had our 16' cruiser we sometimes had four people on board. A bit crowded and no fishing, but it worked.
 
I'm with Tom on this one...look toward the 19 or a 22. I love the 16's but not for three grown guys trying to fish.

And if your dad is like mine and you fret from time to time over his balance a bit larger boat with a deeper cockpit and bit more stable than a 16 (don't get me wrong they're super rough water boats but when a big guy moves to the side the boat tips) would be perhaps a better choice.

Les
 
We have a 16 angler. We have canvas on the back of the boat, put a nice comfortable bench type seat in the cockpit, and routinely take 4 adults out on hte boat for several hours at a time. We've gone water skiing with with 3 people and gear. For a full day of boating, 4 people might be a bit much, but it depends on what you want to do on the boat iwth extra people. (also probably depends on the size of hte adults- we are not big people, so fitting 4 people on the boat is not difficult). Wish I had a picture of the bench- it's one of those white metal folding type seats with padding that West Marine sells... very common and fits perfectly.

We do a lot of our boating on the Willamette and Columbia rivers also. And do a lot of the area lakes. When we want to go longer, it's usually just the two of us. You will have no problem with a 16 or 19 or 22 with your current truck, most likely. They are really light boats.

Erin
 
To each his own. We fish 3 guys in my boat every year. A driver, a net man and the guy on the rod. On windy days, without the 3rd guy you have to turn downwind to land fish, the guy sitting on the cooler must wear rain gear while running as any type of wind/chop will cause spay on the cockpit area. (just make sure all 3 guys don't end up on the same side of the boat. It works for us. The 16 was the boat I went with for ease of operation, (launching, etc), its also easy to clean and maintain and very inexpensive to operate and stores in the garage :!:
 
Chuck Dory":dxb2ea4o said:
My mom gave my brother and I a check and told us to go buy our dad a boat.
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It may depend in part on the size of the check. You post brought back memories of my mom giving me a nickel and sending me for "5 cents soup greens, tell 'em to put in a carrot". Get him the 16 and her some soup greens (or maybe some flowers).
 
dotnmarty":2ph2ykmf said:
Chuck Dory":2ph2ykmf said:
My mom gave my brother and I a check and told us to go buy our dad a boat.
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It may depend in part on the size of the check. Your post brought back memories of my mom giving me a nickel and sending me for "5 cents soup greens, tell 'em to put in a carrot". Get him the 16 and her some soup greens (or maybe some flowers).
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Thanks to all for your advice.
Tortuga- I see you trailer a 22 all the way up the Pacific coast with a mini-van. That helps me understand the weight factor, which appears minimal.
Erin- You're in my folks neck of the woods so I appreciate your input on the Columbia situation.

Took my dad to look around the other day. (He thinks my brother is buying it for himself, hehehe.) First we looked at a Smokercraft with a console and an aftermarket windshield/canvas top situation. Meh, okay.

Then we looked at the Angler 16. My dad had a seat (Even though he thinks it's my brother's boat, he still subconciously assumes he will be the Skipper) at the helm and swiveled back and forth. "Ooh, this is nice." He never even bothered trying out the left seat for some reason.

We also came to the conclusion that even at three on board, one would always be in the cabin; either at the helm or reading the newspaper.

We also looked at the 19. Equally impressive (I especially like the headroom compared to the 16) but probably overkill since over half the time my dad would be solo. Anybody have a guess as to how the fuel costs would compare?

I see a lot of 50 horse and 40 horse on the back of the 16's. What's the preference their? What's the min and max people suggest? Anybody ever go as low as a 25 or 35?

Thanks again to all for your constructive input.
 
I had a honda 50 on my 16 cruiser and it was pretty ideal, but there are times I would have liked to try a 60. I usually trolled for trout by dragging a bucket, but for salmon in the ocean the 50 was fine. Fuel consumption will be higher on the 19 or 22 but probably only cost about 2 miles/gallon, still not a deal breaker. 6 to 7 on the 16 and 4 to 5 on the larger boats. I really enjoyed the ease of trailering the 16, and launching and loading. I launch the 22 alone most of the time but the 16 is a little easier, and a lot lighter load to tow. And the curb appeal of the 16 is awesome.
 
I had a 16 for a short time with a 35 on it. Wished it had a 40 or 50. Get the biggest one (<50) that you can find. "mileage" difference is negligible. Oh, and if available, get one of the newer engines with fuel injection vice carburetors, you won't regret it!

Good hunting, lucky Dad, good kids and great wife! :mrgreen:

My bride said to add that "she loved the boat"! :love Bet your Mom will too, after he's been gone for awhile!!

Charlie
 
I am not convinced now that fuel injection is always the way to go. I found that one of my 35's had some plugged carbs and it was about $200 to clean and repair and adjust. You can't even get close to fuel injection for that. I know that fuel injection is easier starting but you pay a price for it. I am going to adhere to a strict regimen for maintaining my old carbs and go with those.
 
I'm also of the opinion that you should go with a larger engine. The fuel consumption difference is not likely to make much of a difference and with three men on board it will make a difference. We had a 50hp Yamaha on our 16 and we enjoyed having the power when it was needed.
 
I have the 16' angler also with a 50 Honda and 6 suzuki. I would say you would be OK with 3 adults on occasion if you are on fairly protected water like lakes and rivers. I fish off the west side of Vancouver Island and would not even consider having 3 full size adults in the boat for that water. Part of the problem there is the weight would limit the amount of fish you could safely haul (one of those good problems) and another would just be safety in the big swells and wind waves. I would also recommend getting the lightest weight 4 stroke main and kicker motor you can find as the weight can make a difference on the transom especially if you have three adults in the boat. I run my boat with an 8 gallon portable tank and battery in the back, a three gallon tank under each seat, and a house battery up front which balances it out really nice.
The one thing I like about the 16' angler is the balance and how well it planes without the need for trim tabs. I would also recommend getting an insulated fish bag to put in the cuddy. They work great and are easy to fit into the cuddy opening and remove.

Good luck on whatever model you select. You really can't go wrong with any of them.

Al
 
We have a 50 hp Suzuki on our 16 angler. A little extra power is nice when dealing with some of the river currents around here. You wouldn't have to worry about getting out of any tough situations of current/wind with the extra power. I don't know how much the engine weighs, and he has a 10 or 12 gallon gas tank (bigger than the standard), plus an extra battery in the back. We do sit a little low with 4 people, but nothing that's a big deal. We don't fish much (well, Bill does cast a line every now and then, but what he catches, or doesn't catch :) doesn't add much weight in the boat).

If your mom's check allow, definitely consider canvas on the back- it considerably lengthens the boating season. We take our 16 out in December in the Portland Christmas Ships parade. Your dad should join us in the parade once he gets his boat. Seaweed would love to have a sister C-dory boat in the parade with her!

I would offer a test drive, but timing might be difficult as currently the boat is up in Seattle, and I am not sure when the next time Bill will be bringing it back down to Portland. So timing may not be right before your purchase.

Erin
 
I have owned a 22, and now own a 16 and a 25. I second what Les says. Two people can do fine in the cockpit of a CD16 Angler, three are going to be tripping over each other, and especially if they are all fishing.

Les Lampman":1wkoix6e said:
I'm with Tom on this one...look toward the 19 or a 22. I love the 16's but not for three grown guys trying to fish.

And if your dad is like mine and you fret from time to time over his balance a bit larger boat with a deeper cockpit and bit more stable than a 16 (don't get me wrong they're super rough water boats but when a big guy moves to the side the boat tips) would be perhaps a better choice.

Les
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