22 Angler vs Arima 21 HT

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C-Quest

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I've been wanting to buy a fishing boat for some time. I thought I was settled on a 22 Angler, but have started looking at the Arima 21 HT instead.

My question is:

Why is the CDory max hp 100 and the Arima max hp is 175?

Is there some difference in construction that causes the difference?
Both boats are close to the same size.

Thanks.
 
Could not help you on the difference between both boats , but
I think there is a new member that posted not to long ago, that as an Arima and buying a new C-Dory.
 
This from MY IRA in a 2004 post:
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I just had to reply to this one, first because I have owned and enjoyed Arimas (three of them) and C-Dorys (owned one and soon to be the proud parent of a second). Second, I have fished the waters out of Newport, OR. for the past twenty years.

So here goes. Both the Arima and C-Dory lines offer similar advantages in that they're light weight, seaworthy, easy to tow and store, plus, extremely economical to live with. I see the C-Dory as a natural progression from the Arima, especially if you need a warm cabin with full galley accommodations.

The differences on the water are noteworthy. The Arima, (because of it's wide beam to length) gives one the feeling of stability in almost any water. The C-Dory is just as stable but has the feel of a controlled roll when fishing ( especially drifting ) in swells. My personal belief is that both boats will handle any sea that one might care to fish on. However, from experience, I would say that the C-Dory becomes easier to manage in nasty water and is very comfortable navigating serious water at an economical (10-12 mph). Perhaps the biggest difference is speed. Many Arima owners power their 22's with 130 hp., on a C-Dory 22, you will see 70 - 90 hp. Think of a comfortable 17 - 20 mph ride on most days and if that is appealing then you will love a C-Dory

These are both great boat builders using time proven high quality construction techniques. Both are killer fishers and such a joy to own.
I would suggest that you arrange a sea trial with Les at EQ Marine; he sells both lines and is a very helpful and respected.

Hope this helps!

Jerry
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Pretty good review....Try a search on "Arima" at the top and you'll find all sorts of stuff..

Good luck, keep us up to date on what you decide and welcome to the site!

Charlie
 
HI Charlie, since you qot quite a bit of experience with the C-Dory , may be you can help me with my problem. I am a first time C-Dory owner, I now have around 85 hours on my twin 50hp . Props do not seem to be the issue with this problem. I turn 10 1/8 x 12 good fuel economy and about 5700 full trottle. The boat always has a full tank, anchor winlass, 300' rope, 30' chain in the front. I have trim tabs, I readed many treads about following sea. I have tried many ways that has been discribed but my boat is terriably hard to handle at times. Gary
 
Gary, that was someone else's post (MY IRA) and I'm not as qualified as many on the site. I do find the boat taking some turns that I don't expect sometimes, when traveling fast in heavy seas. I attribute that to the hard chines and the hydraulic steering, which can be touchy at times. Never felt unsettled though, it's something you get used to.

Maybe others (I'm sure :lol: ) will chime in.

charlie
 
Thank you Charlie , don't get me wrong I love my C-Dory , I guest your right It sure handle different from every boats I ever own. I think the key is to find the proper setting for every conditions that we get on the water. Just have to patience I am sure it will get better in time. Gary
 
Why is the CDory max hp 100 and the Arima max hp is 175?
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I can't imagine the pounding you would get if you put that much power on a 22! Yikes! From what I have heard there is a formula put out by the Coast Gaurd that stipulates what the max hp rating should be. I'm sure both companies have followed those guidlines.

IMHO the biggest problem with the Arima HT is the HT. It is designed for someone shorter than 6' tall. Sure they give you those hatches to poke your head out but if you stand up inside you will hit your head. Also, if you do stand up with the hatch open, you will be looking directly at the hard top and can't see out the windows without stooping.

There is a company in Ellensburg that will put a custom hard top on the Arima that solves this problem but that adds a significant amount to the price of the boat. However, that is the only HT Arima I would consider owning.

Gary, I suspect the reason you have the boat suddenly turning is due to having the bow down a wee bit too far. This can cause the boat to hook in some conditions and can really scare the bejeezus out of you!
 
Yes Gary you might be right about having the bow down to much. I gest the nature of C-Dory is to ride nose up some, specially in a choppy sea like you mentioned . But really 80 hours is not much on a new boat that is so different from all my other boats that I own. Never to late to teach old dog new tricks,,,,, Normally we should have the trim tabs up, engine tilt up some, than use the throttles to control the boat on following sea? Gary
 
Hello" C-Qest:
Wheight is not the only factor affecting power requirement, so is the shape of the hull. Deeper "V"s will requiere more power, lots more. It will generally give you better rough sea handling, but at a price: power= gas. I suppose the Arima has a more pronounced V all the way back.
Just looked at the specs, and if I'm not mistaken, the Arima has 12° Mean Aft Dead Rise.

Dead Rise.-- The approach the floor timbers of a vessel makes to a vertical. In the case of ships, the frames in the after body are called the dead-risings, because they only rise from the keel at a sharp angle, all the middle frames starting out nearly horizontally from the keel. A yacht is said to have considerable dead rise on a very rising floor, when she is more or less of the V form, but really vessels of the T form have the greatest dead rise, as the heels of the floors forming the framing to take the garboards do rise nearly vertically.

Fun teaching others, you learn bushels yourself 8)

This will make the difference in power requirement. Also, keeping a deeper V on plane requires more power. The CD can get on plane at 9 MPH; bet the Arima will require rather more than that. The Arima will most probably give you less bang on chop; although I have never been on any of the two, but I do aim at changing all that as soon as I can get my CD and lug it all the way to the Panama Canal.
 
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