2010 Delta/Bay Extravaganza and Catalina Adventure

I now hope to stay the whole week, depending on a phone call Wednesday to check my work situation, on how Kimiko and the dogs are doing at home, and whether you divers will tell me where the big fish are! Are we going to Avalon to do the zip line? I want to try that! Flying C-Dogs! Yahoo!

I'll be there when you arrive, fishing around Ship's Rock or Harbor Reef.

Keith
C-Pup16 in Los Angeles
 
I look forward to seeing you again at Catalina. I remember enjoying San Francisco with you and others on one C-Dory Delta cruise. I was crew on Steve's Dora Jean. We were following your old 24 ft TomCat when one hull was leaking and sinking. Looked pretty scary from behind! Has the new CD catamaran performed well? You'll have to tell me when we meet.

Please also tell me how you put a photo tag on your signature block. I've read the Help instructions here, but I don't get BBCodes and it seems that the site Administrator has to allow it.

In any case, for you C-Dory fishermen... here is a link to my photo of a yellowtail that I caught near Bird Rock at the 2008 C-Dory gathering.

album:
http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_ ... _album.php
tuna:
http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_ ... _photo.php

Keith,
C-Pup16
 
I am sure sorry to miss all the fun....Sue and I have been going so much this summer that we will not be at Catalina....darn... I will miss all the fishing this year...I actually bought a fishing license this year...
 
I'll really miss seeing you Joel and Susan. If you're in Los Angeles for any reason and can visit Kimiko and me, please call my cell at 213-700-0080.

Too much time on a C-Dory... can there be such a thing?

Be well,
Keith
C-Pup16
 
This message is about house keeping issues at Marina Del Rey.

Parking costs $10 per day for cars, trucks or RVs with trailers. Parking enforcement is strict and violations are expensive. Bring scotch tape to keep your parking payment stub visible on your windshield. The sun can make them curl up, causing you a parking violation. Be sure the side with the expiration date and time is facing outward for the enforcement people to easily read.

The entry gate machine accepts cash, VISA or MC. I use VISA so I also have a payment record if needed later for a ticket dispute. There is a blue button on the top and a green button on the bottom. The colors look similar at night. Insert your VISA card, then press the blue button one time for each twenty-four hour period you will stay. It goes by hours not calendar days. Then when you're done, press the bottom green button to charge your card and print the ticket. On weekends in summer, there's an old guy with curley hair who disables the gate ticket vending machine, opens the gate and takes your cash to hand you your entry ticket. Yes he works as a contractor to L.A. Dept of Parks and Recreation. Does all the cash receipts reach the county? You tell me what you think. I never understood his purpose other than to funnel slush money to bureaucrats and politicians.

Unfortunately, the gate ticket vending machine will only dispense a ticket that covers a maximum of four days. You just need to repeat the process to buy another ticket for the rest of your parking time. The second ticket will measure time from when you are entering, giving an expiration that is not what you want.

When you park longer than 48 hours, you have to call the Beaches and Harbors office, preferably during business hours before you go beyond the 48 hour limit. The number is below. Nice they are closed Fridays and weekends so you ought to call between Monday and Thursday before 5PM to get on the approved list that the enforcement officer will have that weekend. Know your trailer and car license number when you call, because they put that on the list. If you call after hours, then it should be okay to leave a voice mail message with your licence number, car make and color and expected departure date. I would suggest checking back during business hours to be sure they got you on their list. As long as you have not passed 48 hours from your entry date, you'll be okay. This matters only to those arriving Thursday after 5PM who don't call or leave a voice mail. With voice mail, you won't be on the approved list until Monday.

Do not leave your trailer unhitched to drive around town... another expensive ticket for that. Read the following from their web site at link:

http://beaches.co.la.ca.us/BandH/Marina ... chramp.htm
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Location: Public boat launch ramp is located at 13477 Fiji Way (Basin H). Enter lot from Fiji Way (open 24 hours a day). All vessels must be trailerable.

Fees: $10 launch fee (vehicle/boat); $7 (vehicle only). Pay machine accepts dollar bills, coins, Visa/Mastercard credit cards. Fee includes launching, recovery and 24 hour parking.

When staying over 48 hours, vehicle must be registered with the Dept. of Beaches and Harbors, by calling 310-305-9534. Monday through Thursday 7:00am to 5:00pm. Please call in advance. Failure to give the required information may result in a citation. Vehicles must display a parking receipt right side up on the drivers side dashboard of vehicle for each day parked.
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Keith continues...

There is more than enough parking for all. No problem. You are not supposed to "camp out" however, in an RV or trailered boat over night. If you want to, then have polite conversation with the lonely parking enforcement officer (a nice black guy driving a blue Beaches & Harbors pick up truck who goes by the nick name "Smokey" for his ranger hat). He will talk your ear off, but let him. He will then probably let you slide so you can camp out in the lot over night. You can also talk with "Smoky" if you want to detach your trailer to go shopping or to dinner, but don't be too long. When the shift changes, the new guy will give you a ticket.

There is a wash down that charges a quarter for a minute of water. Remember to bring a hose to rinse your truialer after your launch and retrieval.

At night, the ramp docks have lots of birds and are coverd with shit which makes them slippery and dangerous. Have a sponge or towel handy on the boat to wash your soles off after boarding, or your boat will smell like bord shit.

There are also public toilets at the ramp open 24/7, but there may be a homeless person sleeping inside at night... less likely in summer than in winter. I have never been threatened by one. Public pay phones (a rarety today) are next to the toilet building.

Guest docks are not far from the ramp on the right side as you go out. Dock at an empty space, but be aware that a paper slip clipped to the dock post signifies another boat has paid for that space and will be annoyed if they return to find you there. Try to dock where there is no paper on the post.

When docked, then go into the park to the office. The Guest Dock Office is a building with a red tile roof in the center of the park. The guest dock manager will assign you a dock space and give you a pass number so you can use the locking gates and the guest showers. Remember to out your paper slip on the dock post for your space. If you arrive after hours, there is a self service box where you identify your boat and write your selected the dock space number on an envelope. Then calculate your rent money, put it inside your envelope and slide it into the locked box.

If there seems to be paper slips everywhere, then go out to the main channel and turn right. Big boats have pull-in guest slips there. You big boy C-Dories over 16 ft. may want to take one of those slips, or share one. If they're all full too, then look on your right at the end of the slip section for a green tent-like floating structure and a long dock (not slips). That is a white sea bass grow-out pen of my fishing club. (No, you can not "sleep with the fishes"!) The dock which the pen is tied to is a two hour guest dock and public pump out station. Tie up there, on either side, then go to the park office to see if you can get a guest space.

The guest showers require a guest kep pad code to enter. They are not bad. At least they beat the facilities on C-Pup16... a bucket of ocean water.

In the off chance that there are no available guest spaces at the guest dock or if you prefer peace and quiet rather than hearing neighboring boat party noise, then anchor.

The Dept. of Parks and Recreation (DPR) web site shows anchorages inside the marina. See http://beaches.co.la.ca.us/BandH/Marina/Land.htm I'd check with the harbor master first on Channel 9. Frankly, I do not think they allow anchoring inside the marina. I have never seen it done. Even though the DPR does mark locations for anchorage, the sheriff may not allow it, and they patrol the marina all nighIf you can anchor inside the marina, remember to use your anchor light and a stern anchor. There are some seals in the marina, but that have not to my knowledge been bad boys jumping onto boats.

If you can not anchor inside the marina, then you can definitely anchor outside the marina. I do that all the time, launching C-Pup most Saturdays between 11PM and midnight, anchoring where I'll tell you, and then waking at 4AM to go up to Malibu to fish the dawn bite.

The anchoage is on the airport side, east (left) exit of the marina to the ocean. If you are going there in the dark, there are two bright lights that illuminate the flag pole. These look like truck lights coming at you in the dark. Go straigh "into the light", as it is place to show the center of the channel. Be careful of hitting sail boat channel marker buoys in the dark, although they're foam and cause no damage.

Just outside the marina you'll find the boat gypsies lined up there at anchorage... ratty rusty green slimed sail boats that some homeless out of luck folks prefer to live on instead of living in a car or on the street. They may float for now, but I would never take those boats out to sea. There is a lot of area to anchor in near them in-shore with about 25 ft of water. I ancor close to the jetty wall where it is very calm.

You'll see when you exit the marina on the east (left) exit what looks like another marina channel running parallel to the MDR boat exit channel to the sea. This second channel has similar channel bank rock liner and a jetty wall which I anchor near with my boat. That is Ballona Creek. It is not navigatable, so you won't have boats coming out of it at night to ram you... dead bodies maybe, but not vessels. (This is Los Angeles!) I say this anchoage is nice and quite, but then I'm use to the jets at LAX taking off nearby! Really, at night, there are few flights and you do get use to it. Less so dead bodies bumping into your hull. .. (just joking, that only happens in San Pedro!)

For restaurants, you leave your boat at the guest dock and take a public water taxi to Fisherman's Village. There's a nice Mexican restaurant, and a fancy white linnen one called "Shanghai Red" . There are no water-front restaurants where you can dock your own boat to have dinner. On foot rather than water taxi, there is a shopping center (open parking lot type) on Admiralty Way with a super market. The market has a limited dining faciity inside and a variety of cooked, take out meals. The center has a California Pizza, many new boutique restaurants, and a Starbucks. It also has the only West Marine store in MDR... the other one on Fiji Way that had a guest dock for boat access closed. As you know, there is no more Boaters World. The only other marina store in MDR is Ships Store near Mothers' Beach. See http://www.socalsail.com/bg/co/ships-store-inc/

If you want a hotel that offers a dock, the new Ritz Carlton... what am I saying... we own C-Dories, not Fairline Euro yachts... there is an old 1960s three story cinder block construction hotel just west of the boat ramp and guest docks (Burton Chace Park) that is called the "Marina Del Rey Hotel". It has a good bar and I think a restaurant. It use to offer free guest slips to hotel guests, first come first serve until gone. (A $20 tip to their slip assigning dock master may be a good investment...) Hopefully it still does. I usually put my parents at this hotel when they visit L.A. from Pennsylvania. See http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll/qs ... cation-map for location. Rooms from $129.

Enjoy your stay in Marina Del Rey. I now plan to spend the entire week with you and return together on Saturday.

Have a safe drive to Marina Del Rey.

Keith
C-Pup16
 
OK, looks like we'll be at Twin Harbour from the 10th thru the 19. Do we need to bring anything specific for the potluck?

We'll be leaving from Long Beach, South Shore.

Couldn't find the sign up sheet, sorry

Boris
 
Thank you Keith for the detailed instructions for launching/mooring a boat at Marina del Rey. I would hate to have to learn the ins and outs the hard way on my first launch from a new harbor. Sounds like it could be real expensive.

We might arrive on Saturday and do a little touring of that area.

Thanks again.

Kent
MARCIA JANE
 
My suggestion for touring Santa Monica Bay is to leave in the morning and go West, a hard right out of the marina. This takes you up to Santa Monica pier. Beyond that is Pacific Palisades and then Malibu pier. If you can continue , then past Malibu pier you'll see Pepperdine University on the hill. From Pepperdine University, you are in rich man's Malibu ("The Colony") all the way up to Paradise Cove at Pt. Dume. There are no docking facilities at any of these piers, so you'll be on the boat all day just enjoying the view. The really nice homes are on the bluffs at Pt. Dume. Fishing near the kelp in Pt. Dume is my favorite destination. Sorry... no nudist beaches.

Around noon, the wind picks up and creates wind driven waves. Most days however, it will blow you right back to MDR so you're going downhill with wind in your sails and a following sea (tiny waves). Even in my 16 ft C-Pup, I can do 16 knots on my return to MDR. It's about 15 miles between MDR and Pt.Dume, longer if you follow the shore rather than a straight line as the sea gull flys. With a small boat, I have to plan long excursions so my return is down hill rather than uphill against the waves. If you have a 25 ft boat, that won't matter to you. With the 22 ft CD, I'm not sure.

You could go in the opposite direction for a shorter trip that allows docking. Leave MDR any time and go East (left) to Redondo harbor. It's past several power plants with tall smoke stacks and two fishing piers. In the harbor, there is a boat sling service with a dock that may let you tie up for a couple of hours free if they're not busy launching trailer boats. After they're closed, nobody cares if you use their dock. If they say no, then call the harbor master on channel 9 and ask where's the temprary guest dock. I assume there is one,but I just never needed it. Redondo Harbor is next to a large public pier holding many restaurants and shops, so it is a boating destination with something to do. It is also where you find many hard bodied SoCal youngsters playing beach volleyball.

Returning to MDR from Redondo in the afternoon is going uphill against the normal daily wind and waves. It's less comfortable than going downhill, but I have done it many times. Just adjust your trim tabs, engine tilt and speed until you have the most comfortable ride possible given conditions. It's rarely "the perfect storm", just annoying. The time needed to travel from MDR and Redondo is between 30 minutes going to one hour returning.

One danger to be aware of are the many large tanker anchorage buoys. They're as big as my boat or larger so just don't hit one! I would also not get too close to an anchored tanker... especially after the terrorist attack on one in the Persian Gulf. There are tanker oil off-load hoses underwater, but that has never been a problem for my boat to go over.

If you are a fisherman and want to fish near MDR, there are several spots I can recommend. Your chart will show "fish habitats" in the bay which are artificial reefs. "Venice Reef" is one that is a mile from Venice Pier if you use the pier and draw a straight line. Fishing for calico bass is best done over submerged rock piles. Look on your sonar for "bumps" on the bottom in those fish habitats. Then drop a Bigg Hammer swim bait with a stip of sqid down to the rock, retrieve, then repeat. If you get hit buy fish, mark the rock pile with a way point on your GPS and go over it repeatedluy. I also fish for calicos at the intake pipe for one of the power plants near Redondo. It has four cans marking the intake (red cans) an outflow pipes (white cans). These pipes and the rocks that anchor them create a great calico habitat. Fish the rock pile just past the east red can (on the Redondo side) using Big Hammer swim baits. BTW, if you're not losing hooks to the rocks, then you're not fishing where the fish are.

I learned from a friend today that there area lot of squid out near the tankers off of El Segundo. If you catch your own squid at night, then drive your boat around the area to look for schools of sand bass. When you find one, drop a line down with a squid pinned to a lead head hook. Sand bass are great fun to catch and are active at night.

Halibut are especially abundant this summer. A favorite place to fish for them is on the west side (MDR side) of a long sewer pipe that runs from El Segundo just past the LAX runways out three miles to the Santa Monica canyon. It's marked on charts, and there will be other boats there. The pipe acts as a reef and the sand has built up on the west side, creating a great halibut habitat next to a structure that attracts many bait fish. However you fish for halibut, use enough lead to keep your presentation on the bottom.

West Marine sells plastic covered charts for diving and fishing showing bottom structure. There's a nice new one of Santa Monica bay. If you don't have one for Catalina, you might get that too.

Another activity I'll mention that is unrelated to boating is riding a bike. Places in Venice at the end of Washington Blvd rent bikes. There is a 15 mile or longer cement bike path that runs along the beach from Santa Monica to Redondo Beach. Keep in mind the pleasant ride downhill with the wind to your back will turn into torture returning uphill with the wind in your face. Don't ride all the way to Redondo Harbor without having taxi money to return to MDR!

Have fun!

Be well,
Keith
C-Pup16
 
Great Borris and Judy.

We will see you over there Monday morning.

The pot luck is Monday night on the beach. Can you bring baked potatoes, wrapped in aluminum foil. with sour cream, salt and pepper? It is best to preboil the potatoes if you can. We are down now to about 12 boats and 20 people. Will update everyone soon.

Thanks. See you then.

Sincerely,

Jim and Kath

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Jim on M/V Pounder
And the C-Tales Continue
 
It's located across the main channel to the left when you exit the finger where the boat ramp is. Sometimes a huge yacht with a helecopter on the top deck blocks your view of the gas dock.
 
A nice country western theme song for Marina del Rey is on this web site for the Marina del Rey tourism: http://www.marinadelrey.com/

Too bad Roger and PJ won't be with us this year to play this song on his guitar!

The web site for Marina del Rey Hotel is http://www.marinadelreyhotel.com/ I was wrong when I said in an earlier post that they offer free boat slips for hotel guests. I just called them for booking my parents there the week after our Catalina adventure. They do not offer free boat slips to guests. It costs $45 a day. The dock master for the slips next to the hotel is Julie, PH # 310-822-0316. If you haggle, you might be able to get the first day of a multi day stays free.

Keith
C-Pup16
 
Dear All-

Our Catalina trip is only one week away! We are starting to get excited.

We got our boat and tender motors running this weekend, and we also got all our scuba and fishing stuff organized. Wow, this is an equipment intensive event!

We have had some drop-outs to the trip, but we have also had some drop-ins. The turnout is still good. Below is an update of our current attendees, and who is bringing what, to the Monday night potluck.

1. Jim and Kath, Pounder, Meat and Ice Cream
2. John and Robbin, Dinner Belle II, Green Salad
3. Kent and Marcia, Marcia Jane, Syrup and Cookies
4. Brent and Dixie, Discovery, Snacks
5. Phi and Merry, No Pressure, Macaroni Salad
6. Keith, C-Pup, Albacore and Sweet Corn
7. Journey On, Boris and Judy, Baked Potatoes
8. David and Donald, Blue Eagle
9. Dan, Farwest II
10. Jeff, Bossa Nova
11. Mike, Sealife
12. Steve, Melinda, and Alex, Dora Jean (Coming Tuesday).

We haven’t heard anything from Dan, Jeff, or Mike, above. If you three boats are still coming, please check in and let us know. We want to call the harbormaster and tell them how many boats will be on the string line together.

David and Donald, if you read this, please bring French Bread for the Monday night BBQ. Kath and I will also get the Ice Cream.

We will have one more check in next Friday or Saturday, before we leave Sacramento for MDR. See you all on Sunday in L.A. or Monday in Two Harbors.

Sincerely,
Jim and Kath
 
...check your trailer lights, tire pressure and oh BTW, check your tender for any slow leak to patch it before you leave, and don't forget the tender's oars!
(...all which I've failed to do and sufffered from at one time or the other in the past!)

I'm building a roll stabilizer for the boat at anchor or on the string... two Home Depot 5 gallon buckets with some stones for weight, two lids, one smaller than the other, a long wood closet pole and some rope. Using washers and tying knots in the rope, I'll have the bucket and lids about a foot apart hanging from the pole laid across the transom. It'll be an interesting test of this at the Isthmus.
 
I posted earlier about this for those planning to bring more fish home than a day's allowed catch. If you want to get one, complete the form at the link given in my earlier post, complete this boiler plate VISA authorization letter that I use, and fax both to the fax number on the letter. I took care of it today for me.

Keith
C-Pup16 in Los Angeles

Cut and past the following to your word processor or email, then complete it and print it to fax to DFG at 858 467 4299 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              858 467 4299      end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              858 467 4299      end_of_the_skype_highlighting.
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Faxed August __th, 2010 at (time)

To: CA Natural Resources Agency Dept. of Fish & Game
South Coast Region
4949 Viewridge Ave.
San Diego, CA 92123

Faxed to: 858 467 4299

Re: Declaration For MULTI-DAY FISHING TRIP ~ VISA payment

To Whom it may concern:

Faxed herewith is the completed and signed request for a Multi-Day Fishing Trip permit to hold more than one day’s catch per regulations.

For payment, please charge my VISA card using the following information:

VISA # ________

CVV # (back of card) # ______

Expiration Month: ___ Year: ____

Name on card: _________________

Cardholder’s billing address: __________________________

Cardholder’s home phone # ____________________

Daily work hour contact phone # ________________

Return Fax # ____________________

Authorization: I, ______________, hereby instruct and authorize the CA Natural Resources Agency Dept. of Fish & Game or its authorized card payment processor to charge $5.25 to the above referenced VISA account for one Multi-Day Fishing Trip permit subject to the final approved permit being faxed back to me at my fax number ___________________ or emailed as a ~.pdf attachment to me at _______________ by no later than __________________.

Signed this ___th day of August 2010


____________________________

(Your Name)
 
My boat was disabled once and a good anchor stopped me from being blown into the island's rocky shore while waiting for a tow. An anchor and a VHF radio are essential equipment for the island, even is you expect a friendly C-Dory to tow you to port.

Here's an article and what he says about this:

from http://www.charkbait.com/article/RAjb.htm

"I have a job most people would kill for. During the past five summers, I've worked as a Harbor Patrolman at the Isthmus on Catalina Island. This allows me to live, work and fish some of the most beautiful and productive waters in Southern California. Over the years, I've talked with many boaters at trade shows, boat and tackle shows, and club meetings about boating and fishing at Catalina. Quite a few express surprise when I tell them I regularly cross the channel in an 18 foot Parker center console. I emphasize that I have a good boat, proper equipment and watch the weather. For those of you who have never visited the island in a small boat, I would like to offer a few tips and say Come on over!

The first thing I would recommend is good equipment. I have seen boats come to the Isthmus that I wouldn't take out in the bay in calm weather. If you have a good seaworthy boat, a properly maintained motor, a working VHF radio, a calibrated compass, a GPS and all the required safety equipment, there is no reason you shouldn't be able to make the trip safely.

One piece of safety equipment I want to especially mention is your anchor. Be sure you have an anchor of the appropriate size, with sufficient chain and rode. Catalina Island is not the place to come if you have a small folding anchor, 5 feet of 1/4" chain (or no chain at all!) and 100 feet of 1/4" or 3/8" line. Believe me, I have seen this all too often. You will need an anchor that will hold your boat in deep water and in open ocean conditions. I also mentioned a VHF radio... not a Citizens Band radio, not a cellular telephone or anything else. A working VHF radio is an absolute essential piece of equipment. It can save your life.
 
We are trying to get a better head count for our Monday night BBQ regarding the meat. Is Dan on Farwest II, Jeff on Bossa Nova, and/or Mike on Sealife coming for Monday night BBQ to the event? If we do not hear from you soon, we will assume that you are not coming.

Sincerely,

jim and kath
 
Head count would be nice so I know how big a fish to catch! (I'll bring some marinated albacore I caught and froze two weeks ago, and will add any fish I catch Sunday and Monday morning.)

I'll bring a small bag of self lighting charcoal. I guess we can buy more at the store as needed.

I have a gift bag of ginger snap cookies for every boat . If I see any C-Dory on Saturday when i leave MDR, I'll stop to greet you and ask that you distribute the bags Sunday evening to all who show up at MDR. Ginger reduces sea sickness, and the cookies will taste good while crossing.

Jim, can you tell me how many boats will leave together Monday morning from MDR so I know how any bags of cookies to leave for them?

Keith,
C-Pup16
 
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