19' Angler Cabin Door?
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Steve Grover
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I am planning he same for my new to me 19'er. Keep this discussion going.
Joe did a really nice job on the R-Matey:
I wonder how many hours the project took?
I think I see a pattern emerging here, folks:
There's quite a progression possible:
Call Ben Toland and have him help you cut your 16 in half and add two feet to get an 18 (Oldgrowth Dave).
Trade in your 16 on a 22 (Dave S, many others)
Add a bulkhead to your 19 to keep the weather out (Joe/R-Matey)
Move up from a 19 to a 22 to get some more room (DaNag, lots of others)
Add 2 feet or more to the back of your 22 by re-building your transom and adding Armstrong Brackets for the motors. (Billy)
Trade in your 22 on a 25 to get a bigger boat and an enclosed head (Pat/Patty Anderson, Dave/Anna Leigh, Jim and Laurie, etc., please sign up here on page 13 of the ongoing list)
Move up to a TomCat 24, a TC-255, or a Ranger Tug from something smaller (Dr.Bob, Capt D, several others)
Buy bigger tow vehicles along the way as required or sell house an live on the boat instead (El and Bill)
Build larger garage, or rent larger storage area or slip, as needed.
Buy a 16 to go along with your 25 to have a more economical small boat to trail behind the car/truck and use for short trips/weekends.
Run into the oil/gas price crisis and reverse this process to get better gas mileage, reduce costs, get rid of oversize tow vehicle, etc.
See you back in your new C-Dory 16 in a few years! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Joe.
I wonder how many hours the project took?
I think I see a pattern emerging here, folks:
There's quite a progression possible:
Call Ben Toland and have him help you cut your 16 in half and add two feet to get an 18 (Oldgrowth Dave).
Trade in your 16 on a 22 (Dave S, many others)
Add a bulkhead to your 19 to keep the weather out (Joe/R-Matey)
Move up from a 19 to a 22 to get some more room (DaNag, lots of others)
Add 2 feet or more to the back of your 22 by re-building your transom and adding Armstrong Brackets for the motors. (Billy)
Trade in your 22 on a 25 to get a bigger boat and an enclosed head (Pat/Patty Anderson, Dave/Anna Leigh, Jim and Laurie, etc., please sign up here on page 13 of the ongoing list)
Move up to a TomCat 24, a TC-255, or a Ranger Tug from something smaller (Dr.Bob, Capt D, several others)
Buy bigger tow vehicles along the way as required or sell house an live on the boat instead (El and Bill)
Build larger garage, or rent larger storage area or slip, as needed.
Buy a 16 to go along with your 25 to have a more economical small boat to trail behind the car/truck and use for short trips/weekends.
Run into the oil/gas price crisis and reverse this process to get better gas mileage, reduce costs, get rid of oversize tow vehicle, etc.
See you back in your new C-Dory 16 in a few years! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Joe.
Sea Wolf":29xp3edn said:
The right boat for the mission! As that mission changes, so might the boat. For day-tripping, I think the 16 could be a lot of fun.
Never ridden in one, though. Not sure if Brock ever takes a cat along, but I don't think Molly would be happy on that boat. :wink: :cat Best wishes,
Jim B.
Pat Anderson
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Doesn't everybody need two?
We just love the 16 Angler! It IS the right boat for a lot of things...it was perfect for the Snohomish River and Lake Washington day trips, but for us, mainly day trips out of Birch Bay for crabbing and (I hope in the future) fishing, where it is a lot less of a production to get the 16 out quickly. Out of the chute, Patty sewed an awesome Sunbrella Alaska bulkhead, alas we had to buy the camperback. It does look better and better for overnighters (but not likely for the week plus cruises for two) as gas prices climb! I just haven't quite got Patty there yet! The issue I have not solved is sleeping on-board - with the camperback, sleeping in the cockpit with a pad would be fine but it is too short with the pedestal seats. Somehow the answer seems to me to be to remove the pedestal seats and use some kind of folding chairs or something (Joe, I just know you have a great solution, let's hear it!). The other idea, one I really like but Patty hates, is to open up the cuddy and put in a low platform and cushions ala the 16 Cruiser. A one burner butane stove, a couple of Boy Scout mess kits, a little cooler, the Heater Buddy, a gallon jug of water and a porta-potti, and we one-up Bill on "simplicity"! And even the old Johnson 40 is over twice as economical as the Honda 150...
We just love the 16 Angler! It IS the right boat for a lot of things...it was perfect for the Snohomish River and Lake Washington day trips, but for us, mainly day trips out of Birch Bay for crabbing and (I hope in the future) fishing, where it is a lot less of a production to get the 16 out quickly. Out of the chute, Patty sewed an awesome Sunbrella Alaska bulkhead, alas we had to buy the camperback. It does look better and better for overnighters (but not likely for the week plus cruises for two) as gas prices climb! I just haven't quite got Patty there yet! The issue I have not solved is sleeping on-board - with the camperback, sleeping in the cockpit with a pad would be fine but it is too short with the pedestal seats. Somehow the answer seems to me to be to remove the pedestal seats and use some kind of folding chairs or something (Joe, I just know you have a great solution, let's hear it!). The other idea, one I really like but Patty hates, is to open up the cuddy and put in a low platform and cushions ala the 16 Cruiser. A one burner butane stove, a couple of Boy Scout mess kits, a little cooler, the Heater Buddy, a gallon jug of water and a porta-potti, and we one-up Bill on "simplicity"! And even the old Johnson 40 is over twice as economical as the Honda 150...
Pat- I'm not very familiar with the 16's layout, but you mean there's not 6 feet or so from the pedestal seat bases back to the motor well? Otherwise, I was thinking one of those fairly solid blow up beds they have (not simply an air mattress) would give you a double bed in the cockpit.
If you have trouble with the seat pedestals, keep the chairs but change the pedestals out with bass boat style pedestals that can have the shafts detached from the bases. You might have to install some kind of wooden box on the hull to have enough depth to insert the pedestal base tubes that accept the pedestal shafts. You might need a wood craftsman for that, but David's standing around on Gumes Island twiddling his thumbs with nothing to do, right?
Have a great weekend all!
Joe. :teeth :thup
If you have trouble with the seat pedestals, keep the chairs but change the pedestals out with bass boat style pedestals that can have the shafts detached from the bases. You might have to install some kind of wooden box on the hull to have enough depth to insert the pedestal base tubes that accept the pedestal shafts. You might need a wood craftsman for that, but David's standing around on Gumes Island twiddling his thumbs with nothing to do, right?
Have a great weekend all!
Joe. :teeth :thup
Pat Anderson
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Actually the cabin floor on the Angler is raised from the cockpit sole a couple of inches - might be enough room for a pedestal base in kind of a well in the cabin. I too was thinking of the blow up bed type of deal. I will take some pix so you can see the layout...This has got to have a fairly simple solution.
Sea Wolf":1d0nc9rl said:
Pat,
I suppose you've already considered this, but just in case -- I used to own a Starcraft Islander 20, it had fold down seats for captain and mate. They attached and hinged at the side wall, then you'd slip an aluminum 'ladder' shaped support under the outside edge to the floor (or some to the wall/floor corner at a slant) for support. Very sturdy, light and convertable. The seats folded almost flat as well and secured by a strap with a snap.
I suppose you've already considered this, but just in case -- I used to own a Starcraft Islander 20, it had fold down seats for captain and mate. They attached and hinged at the side wall, then you'd slip an aluminum 'ladder' shaped support under the outside edge to the floor (or some to the wall/floor corner at a slant) for support. Very sturdy, light and convertable. The seats folded almost flat as well and secured by a strap with a snap.
Yeah,
Chromer got it right what I'm thinking of is a door for the cuddy. I'm going to have a camperback installed it a few weeks so I don't really need a bulkhead ( nice job by the way). I wouldn't be able to utilize the flip up tables I built behind the seat cupboards( see pics of Lucky 7's).
I would like to be able to secure the cuddy at times. If I could afford the 22' I would have bought one. I'm going to have to make due. Do you have any idea how scarce used 22's are up here?
Chromer got it right what I'm thinking of is a door for the cuddy. I'm going to have a camperback installed it a few weeks so I don't really need a bulkhead ( nice job by the way). I wouldn't be able to utilize the flip up tables I built behind the seat cupboards( see pics of Lucky 7's).
I would like to be able to secure the cuddy at times. If I could afford the 22' I would have bought one. I'm going to have to make due. Do you have any idea how scarce used 22's are up here?
Captains Cat
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Pat Anderson":27rj3wfz said:Doesn't everybody need two?
We just love the 16 Angler! It IS the right boat for a lot of things...it was perfect for the Snohomish River and Lake Washington day trips, but for us, mainly day trips out of Birch Bay for crabbing and (I hope in the future) fishing, where it is a lot less of a production to get the 16 out quickly. Out of the chute, Patty sewed an awesome Sunbrella Alaska bulkhead, alas we had to buy the camperback. It does look better and better for overnighters (but not likely for the week plus cruises for two) as gas prices climb! I just haven't quite got Patty there yet! The issue I have not solved is sleeping on-board - with the camperback, sleeping in the cockpit with a pad would be fine but it is too short with the pedestal seats. Somehow the answer seems to me to be to remove the pedestal seats and use some kind of folding chairs or something (Joe, I just know you have a great solution, let's hear it!). The other idea, one I really like but Patty hates, is to open up the cuddy and put in a low platform and cushions ala the 16 Cruiser. A one burner butane stove, a couple of Boy Scout mess kits, a little cooler, the Heater Buddy, a gallon jug of water and a porta-potti, and we one-up Bill on "simplicity"! And even the old Johnson 40 is over twice as economical as the Honda 150...
Pat, I just love that curved waterline on the 16!! :shock: Does the water up there on the left coast bend differently around the little hulls? Actually thought about doing it on my TC255, I think it'd look neat if it followed the molded curve of the hull down there. :thup
Charlie