17' C-dory
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Do you have a link? I went thru all 2500 boats on Craig's list Seattle for 15 August--and didn't find it. (There were some great buys, some really neat boats, Kayaks, motors--sure glad I don't live up there, I would be too tempted!)
(but I know better).
I have never seen a C Dory like this. I suspect it is a semi dory, by some other manufacture?? Seeing a photo out of the water would give us more clues... It is a nice looking boat, but some features make me suspect: The transom, and outboard cut out are not typical. Looks as if the transom/side is rounded. This looks like a rolled gunnel boat--typically C Dory is not--although I think the 12 or 14 may have been...
Thanks for bring this up, and sending me down a path of nostalgia on the boats listed (saw sever we had seen when we were cruising to AK in the 90's with our Cal 46...
(but I know better).
I have never seen a C Dory like this. I suspect it is a semi dory, by some other manufacture?? Seeing a photo out of the water would give us more clues... It is a nice looking boat, but some features make me suspect: The transom, and outboard cut out are not typical. Looks as if the transom/side is rounded. This looks like a rolled gunnel boat--typically C Dory is not--although I think the 12 or 14 may have been...
Thanks for bring this up, and sending me down a path of nostalgia on the boats listed (saw sever we had seen when we were cruising to AK in the 90's with our Cal 46...
Here's the link:
https://olympic.craigslist.org/boa/5707718847.html
Looks legit to me, has all characteristics of a C-dory hull and they've built many short run and one of a kind boats over the years, like the 12' skiff, the 27 bowpicker, the 29' cruiser, and 30' cat.
https://olympic.craigslist.org/boa/5707718847.html
Looks legit to me, has all characteristics of a C-dory hull and they've built many short run and one of a kind boats over the years, like the 12' skiff, the 27 bowpicker, the 29' cruiser, and 30' cat.
Should have also added that I recall seeing a handful of these skiffs, both the 12 foot and this one pop up on Craigslist and boat trader over the years always in the bare-bones open skiff configuration. I remember one of the ads describing a former employee who worked at the factory built the skiff on his own time. Can't remember if it was this one or the 12 foot.
thataway":3ljo4njd said:
Bob, I was thinking the same that maybe they used the mold from the original 16' as a starting point, since it likely would have been laying around the factory at the time serving no purpose. The original 16' Angler had a similar curved stem as the one for sale, whereas the post-1986(?) models are more straight. Granted the one for sale also has an extra strake that the original 16 didn't have, but that could have been added in along with the other mods to the mold. The early 16's also had the rolled gunnels, and the cabin just nested over the top. The curved corners on the transom is another major difference.
In the Documents section there is a 1996 price list that includes pricing for 10', 12', and 16' "Rowing Skiff", all of which require long shaft outboards, but aside from that I can't find any more info. If you search "Skiff" in the forums there's also a guy who visited the factory every year in the 1990s and remembered seeing these skiffs, but only for a couple of years. Not sure if the one for sale is the same as the "rowing skiff" advertised but guessing it might have started out as one.
-Mike
I saw this unusual C-Dory 17 on Craigslist last year, but it disappeared before I could check it out. When it showed up again on this site, I contacted the owner, who said he was in Utah, but would be back to Shelton, WA in October. We arranged a meeting to view the boat, and I took Dr. Bob's advice and bought it.
It is a 1993 C-Dory that is unusual with the rolled gunnel. It was owned by someone in Oregon that took it offshore fishing. That owner replaced the original motor with a 40 Honda, then had health issues and the boat sat in storage for several years.
John bought the boat and gutted it, removing the existing center console. He then built the mahogany center console and seats that you see in the picture. He's a real craftsman, they are well built and as beautiful as they look in the pictures.
The motor is a 2008 with 10 hrs on it. John worked in Utah, so seldom had time to use the boat after he finished it.
The outside of the boat needs repair of some nicks and gouges, but other than that the running gear is all new. We're looking forward to using it for fishing on inland lakes and as a bay boat. I'm not sure if we'll tow it behind the 46 instead of the 14 C-Dory, but I don't think it would be a problem to tow. I'll set up an album after I get some pictures of it.
Lyle
It is a 1993 C-Dory that is unusual with the rolled gunnel. It was owned by someone in Oregon that took it offshore fishing. That owner replaced the original motor with a 40 Honda, then had health issues and the boat sat in storage for several years.
John bought the boat and gutted it, removing the existing center console. He then built the mahogany center console and seats that you see in the picture. He's a real craftsman, they are well built and as beautiful as they look in the pictures.
The motor is a 2008 with 10 hrs on it. John worked in Utah, so seldom had time to use the boat after he finished it.
The outside of the boat needs repair of some nicks and gouges, but other than that the running gear is all new. We're looking forward to using it for fishing on inland lakes and as a bay boat. I'm not sure if we'll tow it behind the 46 instead of the 14 C-Dory, but I don't think it would be a problem to tow. I'll set up an album after I get some pictures of it.
Lyle
Hi Bob,
I've put a bunch of pictures of this boat on page 3 of the Bess-C album.
I've never seen a C-Dory with rolled gunnels. I'm not sure the reason for doing it this way. I assume it would take less time and expense to finish the boat. It does feel like there is more space inside than with the regular gunnels.
The boat doesn't have a bilge pump, but has a small well where one would fit. He also mounted the battery in what seems like an odd location to me. These are the first two changes that I'll probably make.
Lyle
I've put a bunch of pictures of this boat on page 3 of the Bess-C album.
I've never seen a C-Dory with rolled gunnels. I'm not sure the reason for doing it this way. I assume it would take less time and expense to finish the boat. It does feel like there is more space inside than with the regular gunnels.
The boat doesn't have a bilge pump, but has a small well where one would fit. He also mounted the battery in what seems like an odd location to me. These are the first two changes that I'll probably make.
Lyle
Really nice boat--clean, and well maintained from the photos.
The rolled gunnel gives more stiffness to the hull without adding much weight--plus it gives a better "finished" look to the gunnel. This is not uncommon with an undecided boat. For example my Caracal 18 comes with and with out hull liner. The boat without hull liner has slightly more room inside, and the rolled gunnel. I have the liner, and it is easier to keep clean--more finished look--but more weight, and slightly less room in the boat.
The rolled gunnel gives more stiffness to the hull without adding much weight--plus it gives a better "finished" look to the gunnel. This is not uncommon with an undecided boat. For example my Caracal 18 comes with and with out hull liner. The boat without hull liner has slightly more room inside, and the rolled gunnel. I have the liner, and it is easier to keep clean--more finished look--but more weight, and slightly less room in the boat.
Great score Lyle! That boat looks super clean, and has great lines!
The 1st generation 16's had rolled gunnels similar to yours, the cabin simply sat on top of the hull, instead of a full-length deck/cabin molding like in the current design. The original also had a flat bottom similar to yours. I like the rounded corners on your transom, gives it a definite "work boat" type of look.
Here's a pic from a 1984 album that sort of shows the similar rounded gunnel of the early designs...
The 1st generation 16's had rolled gunnels similar to yours, the cabin simply sat on top of the hull, instead of a full-length deck/cabin molding like in the current design. The original also had a flat bottom similar to yours. I like the rounded corners on your transom, gives it a definite "work boat" type of look.
Here's a pic from a 1984 album that sort of shows the similar rounded gunnel of the early designs...
I am Jealous, I would have bought that one if I could convince myself I would use it enough. Not likely and it was also almost too nice for the crabbing, fishing, beaching we may have done with it.
Nice boat and enjoy that one!
Bring it to a gathering sometime to show it off.
Greg
Nice boat and enjoy that one!
Bring it to a gathering sometime to show it off.
Greg
The rolled gunnel is also a cost saving measure for the builder. Instead of having both a hull and deck mold, the rolled gunnel is integral with the hull mold. This detail stiffens the hull without the extra labor and materials required to mold a deck then fasten it to the hull. This detail has been used for a long time by Livingston Boats for their catamaran hulls.
Thanks for the comments and history. It seems like C-Dory made a lot of different variations in the 80'same and 90's. John, the guy that I bought it from is a Boston Whaler fanatic. That may explain the wooden console and seat. When I look at old Whalers, they had similar wooden seats and consoles.
Greg, I too was concerned that the boat might be too nice to use. The outside of the boat isn't pristine. It was used as a fishing boat for many years and there are some gouges and chips in the gel coat and rub rail. Instead of trying to make it perfect, I think I'll just use it. We sold our business in June and our final business obligations end in December, so I'm hoping to get quite a bit of use out of it.
Bob, I saw your discussion about trailer brakes on small boats in another thread. I need to weigh this boat, we may need to get a trailer that has brakes.
Brock, it was good to see you and catch up this summer, it's been a long time between visits.
Lyle
Greg, I too was concerned that the boat might be too nice to use. The outside of the boat isn't pristine. It was used as a fishing boat for many years and there are some gouges and chips in the gel coat and rub rail. Instead of trying to make it perfect, I think I'll just use it. We sold our business in June and our final business obligations end in December, so I'm hoping to get quite a bit of use out of it.
Bob, I saw your discussion about trailer brakes on small boats in another thread. I need to weigh this boat, we may need to get a trailer that has brakes.
Brock, it was good to see you and catch up this summer, it's been a long time between visits.
Lyle