1000 generator

JGrider

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How much noise does it put out and how heavy? I have a 22 c-dory and would like air conditioning. I'm trying to make a decision between a 1000 or a 2000 generator.
 
Our air conditioner is 9500 btu I would not go with anything less than the Honda
EU 2000. I'm thinking an EU 2000 is puts out about twevle amps as I am not sure of the exact watts to amps conversion. Borrow a generator to make sure it can run your unit before you buy. I would choose to have a generator that was not running maxed out all the time. Just me talking. The exact weight should be listed on Honda's site. For me the EU 2000 is managable I'm guessing 50 or 60 pounds. To run all night you willl need an extended fuel option either a tank from Wise mfg. or tapped into your boats tank, many ideas available if you search this site. I'm sure others will pipe in, be cool 8)
D.D.
 
I use a Honda 2000 generator to power the 9000 BTU air conditioner on the roof of our CD26V. It is not very heavy. The noise is low and is drowned out by the AC noise. I am happy with the set up.
 
We use a Zenith 5000 BTU AC unit from Home Depot. $100. Installed through the front window with a length of AC foam across the top and 2" 3M tape down the sides. We use the EU 1000 to run it with an extended run fuel tank to eliminate getting up the in the middle of the night to fill the Honda. Pictures of the project in our album. I think the 1000 puts out about 8.5 Amps and the AC requires 4.8 amps so we start the AC on fan and then ease it into cool mode, low and then move it up to mid or high range. Cools the cabin to under 70 degrees in about 30 minutes in the heat of summer and will keep it in the 60's thru the night.
The 1000 weighs 29 lbs. 17.7" long, 9.4" wide and 15" tall.
The 2000 weighs 46.3 lbs. 20" long, 11.4" wide and 16.7" tall.

We also use the West Marine electric heater during the winter. We cannot run it at high heat due to amperage draw, but mid heat is usually sufficient down here in Florida.

If cost or additional weight and size are not a factor for your kind of boating, I think I would recommend the 2000 as that would allow for full throttle AC with minimum noise in the ECO mode for the Honda and high heat from the heater.

Tad and Toby on the Comfy Dory
 
JGrider":19abcizz said:
How much noise does it put out and how heavy? I have a 22 c-dory and would like air conditioning. I'm trying to make a decision between a 1000 or a 2000 generator.

EU 1000
Noise Level
59 dB @ rated load
53dB @ 1/4 load

Same specs for EU2000
 
Don't discount the 1000 if you have a 5,000 BTU window type of AC unit. We ran one very successfully in over 100 degree weather to cool a C D 25, with the $98 unit in the front window, with foam and sunbrella around as "gaskets"--and foil in the windows.

The 2000 operates our 8300 Coleman RV type unit on the Tom Cat, in Eco mode.

You can buy a Kill-a-Watt meter which will tell you how much your AC unit draws and then determine if the 1000 or 2000 will work.

The 1000 is substantially lighter (which was a plus for us).

As for remote fuel--only if the tank is near the level of the generator. if there is more than 12" "draw" for the fuel, it will not produce enough vacuum. There is no fuel pump on either of these generators. It is gravity flow, and the gravity flow creates a vacuum, which pulls fuel over in a closed system via the vent cap. Not sure if you can use the 22 with a fuel tank which is full--but you want the generator in a position which will keep it dry from splash generated by waves.

Built in marine AC units use more current since they use a 110 volt water pump. Again find out the current draw--and "invest" in a Kill-a-watt meter, or a good clamp on AC amp meter (Sears combo unit is excellent).
 
The EU1000 runs the small window unit fine.
Photos of our install and generator mounting in our album.

Removed the glass pane from the window and had a plexiglass one cut to fit the AC install.

We had to look hard to find a small Microwave with a low enough draw to use the EU 1000. The lowest draw one we fount was a Procter-Silex and the EU 1000 barely runs it. It is listed as 600 watts power output. But I think that it draws on the input side close to 900 watts

The EU 1000 does run the Frigidaire 5000 BTU AC effortlessly.
 
Recommend EU2000

My understand is the EU2000 has better bearings then the EU1000 and can run many more hrs before requiring a re-build this is what my Honda Mechanic recommended - but perhaps some one else can comment on this subject in more detail.

This may be another factor for making decision on what model to purchase
 
It is possible that the 2000 has "better bearings" because it is a larger engine. I have a 30 plus year old 500 watt Honda generator which still runs fine. I doubt that any of us will wear out bearings or any other parts on these generators.
 
My dad had one of those 500 watt'ers. I would love to find one someplace. They weigh very little and would be really good on the boat.
 
I bought a Honda 1000 about 10 years ago and it's been used faithfully ever summer. This year I had to replace the carburetor ($70) because of the throttle servo motor, and that's the only problem. The one thing I do is change the engine oil a couple times a year. It's about $1/change, but those small motors need clean oil. I don't care if it's a 1000 or 2000, it's a small engine and needs clean oil. Do that and either will run forever.

I had one of those 500 watt Hondas and gave it to my brother. He doesn't change oil in anything and it quit after a year. They all need clean oil and they'll run a long time.

If the cost, weight and size don't bother you obviously get a 2000. If nothing else, you'll have more margin to run whatever you want to run: air conditioner, microwave, etc. If you want to charge batteries, the 1000 will put out all you need. By the way, the 1000 puts out about 800 watts. I doubt if the 2000 delivers over 1600 watts, but ?

Boris
 
journey on":28vnp70c said:
By the way, the 1000 puts out about 800 watts. I doubt if the 2000 delivers over 1600 watts...
2000 (16.7 amps) watts max, 1600 watts (13.3 amps) continuous.

I bought a eu2000i used (under 100 hrs of use) on Craigslist last week for $700. I have a lot of potential uses for it other than on the CD (e.g. running a 12 amp leaf blower on our driveway without stringing together multiple 100' extension cords). Lots of consumer electrical devices are sized for 15 amp 120VAC outlets and (IMHO) it makese a certain amount of sense to be able to provide at least that amount of power.
 
Well, I picked this thread to discuss the combination of a Honda 1000i and a 5000 BTU air conditioner. I know it's old, but there you go.

Since we're going to the Mississippi (northern section) this summer (2012) I wanted air conditioning wherever we were, at anchor or at the dock. Since we don't usually need it, I wanted to do it on the cheap. So here's what I did.

The Honda is now 10 years old, but it had to do. So I went down to Sears and got a Frigidaire air conditioner ($110.) Cheaper on the internet, but I could return it at Sears, if it didn't work out. Brought it home, fired up the Honda, plugged the 2 together, and voila, cold air. Could hardly tell when the compressor turned on. Ran the Honda on the economy setting (where it only runs fast enough to make the required power.) Worked there, and throttled down quite a bit. No strain, no pain. Now I've got to figure out where to carry it and how to mount it.

Hooray.

And I'm sorry that I ever doubted you, Bob.

Boris
 
forget which post but there were pictures on here somewhere that had the generator and the A/C in one of those huge rubbermaid blue storage bins that you can get at the all things Chinese store (Wal-Mart) for less than $20.00.
 
HEY BORIS-

GOOD JOB! SUCESS IS A GREAT FEELING! :smileo

Maybe you could give us the Model number of the Frigidaire A/C unit since the next person trying to emulate your system doesn't have to guess, and may not be so lucky in making a choice.

Thanks!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
Sure, Joe, but they're all the same from China. Just a different name on the outside. Like those cheap 1000 w generators.

Frigidaire FRA052XT7, 5000 BTU. In Canada it's got a 9.7 rating, in the USA, the rating is $41. don't know if there's any social significance there. Imported by Electrolux, so be careful you don't get a 5000 BTU vacuum cleaner.

I notice that Dr Bob has a picture of a A/C in a C-Dory with the brand name "Artic King", which looks identical. From that, I would suspect that the rating and measurements are what one should use to select a unit. Just get the best bargain.

I also spent the morning installing a new radio in the Toyota. I now can make a cell phone call hands free through the radio. Just speak the name, and it goes ahead and dials the number. No wires, just Bluetooth. Can hardly wait until someone cuts me off and I say "Jesus Christ." If someone answers, I'll quit drinking.

Also plays Pandora radio through the call phone. Remember when all you had to do was worry about running the battery down whilst you parked? Or are you that old? Or did you park? That long?

Sorry, it's Sunday night and it's raining.

Boris
 
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