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Yamaha SDS prop
- Thread starter Nysrx01
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I have not used one of these. The cushioned hub does make less noise and vibration than the standard rubber hub. However, as far as dropping 3 pitch sizes--I would check with someone like Andy at SIMS or Ken at Prop Gods. Generally you change the RPM 200 by each 1" of pitch change. See what the RPM is at WOT currently--you want to be between 5500 and 6000 at WOT, with any prop.
The only difference in these very pricy Yamaha props [good quality] and anybody else's is the proprietary SDS hub system . The only thing a hub does is transfer the power from the propshaft to the propeller blades with some kind of sacrificial hub in between . The SDS is an anti "clunk" dampening system .
A prop's "blades" have their own set of parameters . pitch, qty blades , rake , and diameter .
There is no correlation between hub type and prop pitch . If the boat runs well now, note the pitch and diameter . Thats likely what you will end up with .
Marc
A prop's "blades" have their own set of parameters . pitch, qty blades , rake , and diameter .
There is no correlation between hub type and prop pitch . If the boat runs well now, note the pitch and diameter . Thats likely what you will end up with .
Marc
Here what they have the website. Props are $144.
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
Thats not on Yamahas website that I can find ,Yamaha geneally does not have factory online pricing either .
Sounds like someone trying to generate a phone call to me.
However it does say this ;
Talon (SDS) (Aluminum)
Designed for outboards F70-F115, T50 and T60. Our new Talon – SDS propeller brings our exclusive Shift Dampener System (SDS™) to larger midrange outboards. This creates smooth shifting and quiet, in-gear operation, even at trolling speeds, and is particularly beneficial on smaller, in-line outboards such as those used on pontoon, walleye, fiberglass and deep-V boats
Pitch , blades and diameter ...... = prop size .
Marc
Sounds like someone trying to generate a phone call to me.
However it does say this ;
Talon (SDS) (Aluminum)
Designed for outboards F70-F115, T50 and T60. Our new Talon – SDS propeller brings our exclusive Shift Dampener System (SDS™) to larger midrange outboards. This creates smooth shifting and quiet, in-gear operation, even at trolling speeds, and is particularly beneficial on smaller, in-line outboards such as those used on pontoon, walleye, fiberglass and deep-V boats
Pitch , blades and diameter ...... = prop size .
Marc
Here is the website I found that has the SDS props for the midrange Yamaha's
These are all new this year. It's the Talon series. I don't think the prices are that much more than standard props.
It's a genuine Yamaha website. www.simyamaha.com
You are here: Home > PROPELLERS & HARDWARE > PROPELLERS > PROPELLERS FOR MODELS T50, C60, E60, P60, T60, 70, P75, C75, E75, F75, F80, 90, C90, F90, F100, 115, C115, F115, P115, 130 > NEW! TALON SERIES WITH SDS
Yamaha's high-performance aluminum propeller with
Shift Dampener System (SDSTM) designed specifically
for Yamaha mid-range outboards. The Talon features
all-new blade architecture that is perfect for pontoon,
walleye, deep V and fiberglass boats, and a new,
replaceable SDS hub that requires no special hardware
for operation. High-efficiency, low slip design,
13 - 1/2 diameter and available in several pitches.
These props are for engines with a 4.25" gearcase, "K" series
6EK-45941-00-00 - Part # 6EK-45941-00-00
9 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIameter
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45941-00-00
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
6EK-45943-00-00 - Part # 6EK-45941-00-00
10-1/2 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIA. - TALON PROP
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45943-00-00
3-Blade NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
6EK-45945-00-00 - 10-1/2 PITCH X 12 DIA. - TALON
12 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIA. - TALON PROP
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45945-00-00
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
6EK-45947-00-00 - 10-1/2 PITCH X 12 DIA. - TALON
14 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIA. - TALON PROP
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45947-00-00
Superseded from Part # 68V-45941-00-EL, 68V-45941-00-98, 68V-45941-00-00
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
6EK-45949-00-00 - 10-1/2 PITCH X 12 DIA. - TALON
16 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIA. - TALON PROP
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45949-00-00
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
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These are all new this year. It's the Talon series. I don't think the prices are that much more than standard props.
It's a genuine Yamaha website. www.simyamaha.com
You are here: Home > PROPELLERS & HARDWARE > PROPELLERS > PROPELLERS FOR MODELS T50, C60, E60, P60, T60, 70, P75, C75, E75, F75, F80, 90, C90, F90, F100, 115, C115, F115, P115, 130 > NEW! TALON SERIES WITH SDS
Yamaha's high-performance aluminum propeller with
Shift Dampener System (SDSTM) designed specifically
for Yamaha mid-range outboards. The Talon features
all-new blade architecture that is perfect for pontoon,
walleye, deep V and fiberglass boats, and a new,
replaceable SDS hub that requires no special hardware
for operation. High-efficiency, low slip design,
13 - 1/2 diameter and available in several pitches.
These props are for engines with a 4.25" gearcase, "K" series
6EK-45941-00-00 - Part # 6EK-45941-00-00
9 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIameter
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45941-00-00
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
6EK-45943-00-00 - Part # 6EK-45941-00-00
10-1/2 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIA. - TALON PROP
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45943-00-00
3-Blade NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
6EK-45945-00-00 - 10-1/2 PITCH X 12 DIA. - TALON
12 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIA. - TALON PROP
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45945-00-00
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
6EK-45947-00-00 - 10-1/2 PITCH X 12 DIA. - TALON
14 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIA. - TALON PROP
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45947-00-00
Superseded from Part # 68V-45941-00-EL, 68V-45941-00-98, 68V-45941-00-00
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
6EK-45949-00-00 - 10-1/2 PITCH X 12 DIA. - TALON
16 PITCH X 13-1/2 DIA. - TALON PROP
List Price: $169.95
Our Price: $144.46
You save $25.49!
Part # 6EK-45949-00-00
3-Blade. NOTE ON ALL TALON SDS PROPS. THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OTHER ALUMINUM PROPELLERS. WHEN ORDERING GO 3" DOWN IN PITCH FROM WHAT YOU ARE USING CURRENTLY. EXAMPLE: IF YOU ARE RUNNING A 15P ALUMINUM PROP, PURCHASE A 12P TALON SDS TO MAINTAIN SIMILAR RPMS AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE AS THE 15P. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR CALL BEFORE ORDERING A TALON SDS TO CONFIRM SIZING.
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Do as I suggested and call "Andy" at Shipyard Island Marina, and ask what the situation is. SIM is a legit outfit, and Andy is very helpful.
In the past, most of the SDS hub motors were SS props, and were expensive in comparison.
However, as Marc (who really knows what he is talking about), says, there is something a bit strange, about a prop which claims to be a 12" pitch, and yet runs like a 15" pitch. Actually pitch is not constant in prop blades (that would not work real well, and that is where the concept of cupping and rake comes into play.) This generally would a more aggressive pitch further out in the blade of the prop. 12" thru the water, should be 12" thru the water, but it is more the way the pitch is measured, than reality.
Do as I suggested and call "Andy" at Shipyard Island Marina, and ask what the situation is. SIM is a legit outfit, and Andy is very helpful.
In the past, most of the SDS hub motors were SS props, and were expensive in comparison.
However, as Marc (who really knows what he is talking about), says, there is something a bit strange, about a prop which claims to be a 12" pitch, and yet runs like a 15" pitch. Actually pitch is not constant in prop blades (that would not work real well, and that is where the concept of cupping and rake comes into play.) This generally would a more aggressive pitch further out in the blade of the prop. 12" thru the water, should be 12" thru the water, but it is more the way the pitch is measured, than reality.
Here was Andy's reply about the new Yamaha Talon SDS prop. With the aluminum SDS Talon, I have no reason why Yamaha did it this way, but the pitch numbers don't jive. Say you had a standard 13P aluminum prop, and you turned 6000 at wide open throttle. Then you put a 13P Talon on it. Your rpms would be at 5200 in the same conditions.
Nysrx01":3lrp83n0 said:Here was Andy's reply about the new Yamaha Talon SDS prop. With the aluminum SDS Talon, I have no reason why Yamaha did it this way, but the pitch numbers don't jive. Say you had a standard 13P aluminum prop, and you turned 6000 at wide open throttle. Then you put a 13P Talon on it. Your rpms would be at 5200 in the same conditions.
There must be a large amount of CUP in the blades to account for the 800 reduction in RPM...
/david
Hi my friend im from Italy, i have a 2018 f70 yamaha
i have used 2 type ok K alu prop.
13 5/8 13p in 3 person 6300 rpm - 28 mph
13 5/8 14p 2 person 6000 rpm 28 mph
i have many problem at live trolling chattering prop and i need a Talon pro, can u help me?do u have my same engine?
i have used 2 type ok K alu prop.
13 5/8 13p in 3 person 6300 rpm - 28 mph
13 5/8 14p 2 person 6000 rpm 28 mph
i have many problem at live trolling chattering prop and i need a Talon pro, can u help me?do u have my same engine?