Wrap-around all-round light?

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Mike...

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Hello to all.

Has anyone ever heard of an all-round light that wraps around a pole, instead of mounting at the top of a pole?

I am looking for such a thing.

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mike
 
I haven't seen one, and I tried searching the web for you as well but no luck so far.

I was just wondering? I bet if you put 4 mast head lights or similar led lights around the perimeter of the pole, you would accomplish the same 360 degree visibility asked for in the col reg rules. Of course, they would have to be wired together in series as one light.
 
I'm curious: why do you ask? I don't see any difference between a light at the top and one which wraps around. If it's too high, trim the pole?

Just one thing. Don't wait until you find the perfect anchor light to use one. Keeps you out of trouble.

Boris
 
Like Boris said, I don't really understand your objective. If it is for an anchorlite you'll want something that meets USCG reg's to keep you Legal, and (hopefully) keep you from getting that run-down feeling in the middle of the night.

If you're simply searching for a light the shines 360degrees, but not particularly bright, something like a small walkway light from the Walmart garden department might work. They're solar powered, have built-in photovoltaic circuitry, burn all night, and are less than $4/ea. They're just not very bright.

I keep a couple of them on our boat just for the heck of it. They work like a candle (but not hot) in the cabin, or can even be sort of a mood light in the cockpit - if you're in the 'mood (but I haven't found they're very effective for that purpose).

So, I come back to "what's your objective?"

Best,
Casey
 
Casey":2cfv7o8a said:
Like Boris said, I don't really understand your objective.
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The all-round light is the 360 degree white light that turned on while anchored or underway (on vessels our size).

I was looking for one that wrapped around a pole so I could put something else on that pole above it.
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mike
 
Not to be a wet blanket but...The all around white light (anchor light) is one of your required navigation lights and the Coast Guard has specifications to keep it legal. For example it is required to be visible for two nautical miles. Using some kind of wrap around light might meet your goal of freeing up space but if for example some yahoo ran into you while you were anchored and you did not have an approved anchor light you might be found at fault.
 
colobear":2qnw45cg said:
Not to be a wet blanket but...The all around white light (anchor light) is one of your required navigation lights and the Coast Guard has specifications to keep it legal. For example it is required to be visible for two nautical miles. Using some kind of wrap around light might meet your goal of freeing up space but if for example some yahoo ran into you while you were anchored and you did not have an approved anchor light you might be found at fault.
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Thanks for the concern, but I think you may have misunderstood my intent. :)

Admittedly, I probably should have been more clear. Let me try again:

I am not looking for just any kind of wrap-around light. I am specifically looking for an all-round light that wraps around a pole. By "all-round light," I mean that which is defined in Rule 21(e) and Rule 22(c).

Rest assured that I am quite focused on finding a solution that satisfies those two rules, as well as Rule 23(c), Rule 30(b), §84.03(d), §84.17(b) and §84.17(c).
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mike
 
A possible solution would be to mount a stern light (135 degrees) on the aft side of the pole and an underpower light (225 degrees) on the forward side of the pole. These will, when combined show a white light 360 degrees. You could also mount two all around anchor lights, one on each side of the pole. If two lights are not separated by 3 feet or so, they will appear to be one light when seen from a distance.

Not a very elegant solution, but would work.
 
Larry H":12a8zhbv said:
A possible solution would be to mount a stern light (135 degrees) on the aft side of the pole and an underpower light (225 degrees) on the forward side of the pole. These will, when combined show a white light 360 degrees. You could also mount two all around anchor lights, one on each side of the pole. If two lights are not separated by 3 feet or so, they will appear to be one light when seen from a distance.

Not a very elegant solution, but would work.
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Hi Larry. You are correct, the two lights positioned so that they appear... "as one light at a minimum distance of one nautical mile" [§84.17(c)] is a solution. It's my fall-back position if I can't find a more elegant solution.

Your 135/235 degree solution might just work, as might the green-eyed-pirate-baby's :) solution above, again assuming it appears as one light. I need to explore those options.
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mike
 
The 135/225 NAV lights will not satisfy the 360 anchor light requirement.

I remember seeing a description of a 360 light that wrapped around the mast of a sail boat. I thought it odd, but sail boats have different lighting requirements depending upon whether they are running under sail or power, and they stack the lights on top of another. I would check some of the sail boat forums.
 
RProffer":1wg649w8 said:
The 135/225 NAV lights will not satisfy the 360 anchor light requirement.
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Hi Rick. I suppose that depends on whether I can get them close enough so that they show... "an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 360 degrees." [Rule 21(e)] Won't know until I try to find the right lights.

But, I am still hoping I can find that elusive wrap-around all-round light. :)

RProffer":1wg649w8 said:
I remember seeing a description of a 360 light that wrapped around the mast of a sail boat. I thought it odd, but sail boats have different lighting requirements depending upon whether they are running under sail or power, and they stack the lights on top of another. I would check some of the sail boat forums.
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Thanks. That's a good idea.
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mike
 
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