Would You Ever Repower a 22' With a 60 Horse Outboard ?

Harry said:
"I might look at a C22 with an 80 hp Yamaha. Does anyone have one like this? What can I expect with a medium load vs. a 90hp?. And, if it has digital gauges, can I get an hour readout? The owner doesn't seem to know. Thanks."
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Harry, I have twin 40 Yami's and they were set up by a dealer in California, who for one reason or another only set up one engine with the hour meter system :twisted: and now to change it over to the new tach with hour meter and cabeling, is a $500 job :thdown (Which is all another subject.) But....

I would really consider twins, 40's or 50's. 40x2 is adequate, duplicitly redundant andingcan run on a single, but if cruise at hull speed or trolling is going to be a frequent activity, I might encourage the 50x2, for the reasons stated in earlier posts that fuel economy might be better if the OB is not working at max capacity, but more comfortably in the 75% of power range. I think a single 50 would even maintain planning if running on twins and one was shut down and raised. I have done that with my 40's but not with the boat loaded for cruising.

If the boat is already powered with a single 80, then you have the whole kicker issue to re,re,re,re,revisit and decide. Wish you great cruising :!:

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
Weight (at the back) is definitely a factor re planing. Although I prefer twin engines, a single engine of the same HP typically weighs less (and the newer ones are lighter than the older ones).

The key variable for most of us is the amount of gas we have in the tanks. Gas weighs ca. 8#/gal. Thus, 40 gals. weigh ca. 320#, whereas 15 gals. weigh ca. 120#. That 200# difference (at the back) will effect planing speed!

A further note: I have found that Permatrims (see discussions elsewhere on this site) are particularly helpful on the low end, getting the hull up on plane and holding it there at a lower speed.
 
Harry,

I've got a 2000 yami 80 on a 22 cruiser. I would recommend the engine. Never had a bit of trouble with mine. I am the fourth owner. It would run similar to the Honda carbed 90. The new fuel injected models perform much better.

The yamaha is a good engine. The 80 is the detuned 100 h.p. Had I bought the boat new I would have got the 100 version. When/if I repower it would be a 115 h.p. The C dory can carry a ton of weight. 30 mph top speed is fine. I would just like the boat to cruise/perform when it is heavy like it does when it is bare bones empty. The kicker pushes the boat at hull speed quite well and whisper quiet and efficient, allowing operation from the cockpit.

With the 80 h.p. version you only get 80 h.p. and that is rated at 6000 rpm. You have the bigger cowling/engine and weight of the 100 always with you. We always overnight, so lots of camping stuff, two big dogs and a 15 H.P. kicker. Always loaded way heavy. Even for a weekend, my wife carries atleast a weeks worth of canned stuff just in case... I am over propped with the 15 pitch and will try a 14 pitch to get the rpm's as close to 6000 as I can when loaded.

On the Hour meter: My boat has analog gauges but has a separate digital yamaha hour meter mounted in the dash. A meter could be mounted anywhere between the engine and the helm. But I would think the owner would be aware of that. I am pretty sure that there is no electronic brain that would store engine hrs. on a 2000 model for retrieval. Like others have said for most people 100 hrs a year is a lot. We often cruise out away from the crowd, anchor on some remote beach and camp all weekend. Even if the boat was the last one you owned. With proper maintenance you would have a tough time actually wearing the engine out. Thats why I may never get to repower...
 
Pete,

I've been looking at both, Yamaha & Mercury and I'm pretty sure I'll go with the Mercury Big-Foot. I believe Mercury will offer more options with regards to available prop pitch. I'm in Las Vegas right now and I've already seen some four dollar a gallon gasoline.

Next week I'll be in Sacramento, CA and I'll talk to the boat dealer, that I've done business with in the past and get his opinion. I don't have a need for speed at four dollars a gallon! :shock:

Bill
 
There is no way out for me. My want for a lighter 60 hp has met with failure. Like it or not, it looks like my repower will be a Yamaha 90 hp four stroke. Almost 100 lbs more than the previous 90 hp two stroke.

:cry: :cry: :cry: and Crow Stew

Bill
 
C-Bill":2862iaiw said:
There is no way out for me. My want for a lighter 60 hp has met with failure. Like it or not, it looks like my repower will be a Yamaha 90 hp four stroke. Almost 100 lbs more than the previous 90 hp two stroke.

:cry: :cry: :cry: and Crow Stew

Bill
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Hey Bill-

You won't regret it at all!

That Yamaha 90 EFI will outlast you, me, and 90% of your/our C-Brat friends!

It'll be like putting a new car behind your transom.

It will make you've suddenly seen a fifty year advancement in the evolution of outboard marine engineering!

The weight difference won't be so much that you'll really notice it.

Have fun with your new motor!

Was nice meeting you at Lake Shasta about 3 years ago!

Joe.
 
Harry
If you are talking about a single Yamaha 80hp 4stroke I belive that that engine just comes as a jet pump not a prop. It is a 90 hp minus 10% for the power lost at the pump. A couple of years back they made it so the stated hp is at the prop/pump and not the crank shaft. Anyway a couple of weeks ago I was skimming through a Yamaha broucher and I belive that is what I read concerning the 80hp

Chuck
Bootleg Hooch
 
Thanks Joe,

Just happened to see your boat parked next to the cabin at Eagle Lake last October. I was on a quick fishing trip with a friend of mine. He gave me bad instructions as to where he was staying and I was running a little late, but recognized the C-Dory.

Hopefully, I might bring my boat to Eagle Lake later in the year.

Bill
 
Bill- Too bad we're talking about a 350-400 lb outboard, otherwise I'd take my motor off my transom and loan it to you for a few weeks to try out! Good idea for motors of 15 or less HP, though.

I've got a cabin at Eagle Lake called the "Fly Rod Inn" rented for a week at the end of October during the dark of the moon.

Best trout lake in California, and my favorite escape from Shasta Lake!

Cheers! (and tight lines!)

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
I appreciate the offer, but I'm going to prep the boat and take it to Bucks Marine for that 90 hp four stroke. I'm going to make some changes in the weight distribution to offset the additional 100# at the transom.

Yes, Eagle Lake offers some good fishing.

Bill
 
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