Why we don't post...

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rogerbum

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1) Because after awhile you get tired of arguing arguments you can't win or with people who don't listen
2) Because excessive arguments make me a bad person
3) Because I really don't want to offend others with my opinions (even if I think they're wrong - I value their friendship more than the point)
 
IT-SEA-BIT-C":1lzpyotp said:
I don"t get it ?
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Understandable! It was..........

Another ___________ enigma post!

Double negative, if you please! (Two negatives ='s 1 positive).

So....We don't post because we don't get anything done if we don't!

Meaning we DO post because we-

1. Have something to say or ask.

2. Enjoy camaraderie of each other (friendship, community, sense of belonging).

3. Get a sense of importance and recognition from the group that is gratifying to ourselves. (I know something, people like me, they care about me, etc.)

All fine and good!

Now enter the basic premise that this website is about boating, specifically C-Dory boating.......... and then we have to ask ourselves...

So where do off topic threads and discussions fit in?

Easy answer: Just about anywhere as long as they're friendly, and mutual respect and positive feelings are shared between our members that have different points of view.

Indeed: We've seen lots of non-boating topics of a variety of types that seem to float along OK and not get offensive.

The problem comes when a topic becomes controversial and members dig in and get unpleasant with each other, and sometimes more than that.

Going a step further, a few topics/threads are deliberately chosen as bait knowing others will disagree and a melee will ensue.

At these points, the line is crossed. We're no longer a boating website with members sharing ideas about boating and a few other thoughts, we've become a debate society, with topics that have nothing to do with the purpose of this site, which is to promote our interests in C-Dories and boating. Is this site a soapbox for any and all topics and people? I think not.

We even went as far as to "ban" political and religious topics a few months back, remember?

Now some will claim they enjoy this type of spirited give-and-take, but why not just take the debate to a more appropriate website concerned with such topics?

IMHO: The answer lies in that they want to enjoy the audience this site provides.

It would be simple enough to go to an appropriate website or even create one of their own dedicated to those C-Brats that want to debate non-boating issues, but that would take all the fun out of it, meaning they enjoy the banter in front of all the other C-Brats. Likewise, it wouldn't be fun to discuss such topics with PM's or emails either. The claim that they're just seeking intellectual truth through discussion doesn't hold water either, because of these considerations.

It's really hard to suggest that we can't discuss certain topics or have to ban or lock certain threads because they become negative, offensive, or stir the pot too much, but our recent history proves otherwise.

I guess we're left with nothing else to do but unplug a topic when it crosses the line.

Maybe we need a system where we have a delete button on the screen with each topic in the "That's Life" category (where these topics belong) which locks up a thread when a sufficient number of members find it offensive.

Sounds Democratic enough, anyway!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
Sea Wolf":1gxlaxfw said:
I guess we're left with nothing else to do but unplug a topic when it crosses the line.
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Nope Joe, that wasn't my "point" or "non point", and I don't believe it was the originators'. It was that if we don't post, it doesn't get perpetuated and brought back to the top of the list that pushes yet again in someones' face (or at least someone feels pushed on, whether it was meant to or not). Some folks can ignore it, some can't but should and others, well..... we all know the "Rest of the Story".

As I understand the system, after 90 days of inactivity, it goes to the great post place in the ethersky. :shock: :wink:

Perhaps some should go sooner than others :idea: :?:

Charlie
 
Captains Cat":fkdbnfdc said:
Sea Wolf":fkdbnfdc said:
I guess we're left with nothing else to do but unplug a topic when it crosses the line.
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Nope Joe, that wasn't my "point" or "non point", and I don't believe it was the originators'. It was that if we don't post, it doesn't get perpetuated and brought back to the top of the list that pushes yet again in someones' face (or at least someone feels pushed on, whether it was meant to or not). Some folks can ignore it, some can't but should and others, well..... we all know the "Rest of the Story".

As I understand the system, after 90 days of inactivity, it goes to the great post place in the ethersky. :shock: :wink:

Perhaps some should go sooner than others :idea: :?:

Charlie
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Well, I guess I missed the ( ) unpointed/ambigious/no point/point!

I believe in being simple and explicit to avoid such misunderstandings: KISS, you know!

Anyway, the rest of what I said was as straight as I can say it!

I think the "Poll" system which allows a member to vote only once could probably be adapted to serve the function of allowing members to close a thread when they had had enough of it!

It also takes the onus off of Bill and/or Mike to make the decision to lock up a thread.

It also puts the onus on those discussing a topic to keep it friendly or they will find it shut off by the majority of the membership.

The threshold number of votes to close a thread would have to be determined experimentally at first, but after awhile it would be known that "200 or 500, or whatever votes would cross the line to the lockup box.

Something to think about!

Joe. :thup :teeth
 
Sea Wolf":1wq6uxxh said:
IT-SEA-BIT-C":1wq6uxxh said:
I don"t get it ?
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Understandable! It was..........

Another ___________ enigma post!

Double negative, if you please! (Two negatives ='s 1 positive).
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Nope - either a triple negative or single positive. You'll just have to go back to my first post in this thread and use your secret decoder ring. :wink:
 
Sea Wolf":525ey2qn said:
I believe in being simple and explicit to avoid such misunderstandings: KISS, you know!

Anyway, the rest of what I said was as straight as I can say it!

I think the "Poll" system which allows a member to vote only once could probably be adapted to serve the function of allowing members to close a thread when they had had enough of it!

Joe. :thup :teeth
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OMG, I think you just called me S_____id? :cry

:lol: Anyway, I believe in the same principle....And I thought a blank post was as simple as I could get.

Your poll principle may have some merit. The only problem is, that it puts Bill and the moderators in the position of having to put a poll on the ones they think are controversial. Another decision for them to make. Or maybe we should have a poll to decide which ones have a poll on them. I think we just passed KISS!

Wow, it's warm here (weatherwise). I just saw a mosquito! 75 degrees here on the Northern Neck of VA! :note Summer's Comin' :note :thup

Charlie
 
No, Charlie, I didn't call you s____d !!!

Just said that posts that feature

indefinite,

ambiguous,

nondescript,

innuendo loaded,

or otherwise difficult to decipher

messages

are too hard for my aging mind to grasp,

and may be subject to

erroneous interpretation of

meaning and/or intent,

and thus may result in

one or both of us looking a bit

old and slow,

but never stupid!

Er, ... now what was this discussion about, huh ??????


Joe. :lol:
 
Sorry, I thought that's what the last "S" in KISS sstood for! :twisted:

I have no idea what the discussion was about anymore, I'm outa here, going back to boat discussions! (Did I hear a collective sigh of relief? Probably so!!) :wink:

Chalrie
 
Charlie-

Sorry if this discussion has led to any misinterpretations.

I'm not trying to over complicate anything, nor go on any witch hunt.

Only look for some sort of possible solution for a dilemma.

I'm just trying to represent what I feel are a majority of folks on this site that want to discuss boating, and feel the other topics sometimes go astray.

Cheers!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
We need an emoticon that will indicate when we're joking. As I was. Sorry buddy, let's go have a cocktail, it's almost 5 here on the right coast. Cheers.... :cocktail :cocktail

Charlie
 
Captains Cat":2jreu5w4 said:
We need an emoticon that will indicate when we're joking. As I was. Sorry buddy, let's go have a cocktail, it's almost 5 here on the right coast. Cheers.... :cocktail :cocktail

Charlie
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Thanks for the clarification, Charlie!

I'm so deep into this, I don't know whether I'm coming, going, stuck in the middle, or just lost in space sometimes.

I truly hope I'm accuretely representing a lot of you C-Brats out there!

Cheers! :cocktail :cocktail :cocktail :smile
 
Leave it to Marty to remember the burgee thread :lol:
But IMHO the burgee thread was a "proper topic"
for all to discuss where other topics are , perhaps, less relevant
to many members :thup
 
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