Which is better: 22' cruiser or 25' cruiser?

I've only had my 22 for a couple of weeks, been out in the Gulf of Mexico twice, cruised the inland waterway twice, learned a little, and lived a-lot in those brief excursions.

I have to tell you, which boat is a good question, one I took several years pondering. I looked only at boats that could be trailered, big ones like the Rosborough, but mainly the 22 C-dory and the 25 C-dory. When it came right down to it, the decision was clear. I will trailer the boat a lot, I will spend most of my time on inland lakes and impoundments, some in the Gulf of Mexico, most likely the Keys, and once I get my sea legs? Who Knows.

Cruising will be for two, and possibly a grandchild now and then. The 22 would be easier to trailer, easier to launch, more economical, easier to maneuver, less draft, etc. Not until I actually got Marooned into the water did I realize what a great choice I had made. She handled the rough 6ft seas that well up in Tampa Bay with a 17 knot northeast wind, and once you slow down in a 2ft. chop she is quite comfortable.

For me it was clear what the right choice was for my situation, although I waffled here and there, so my advice is: Take advice, listen to everyone, then get all that out of your mind and choose whats right for you.
 
Glad you liked the poem. Be careful of encouragement, I'm likely to subject you to more.

To add to Sea Wolf's list about the danger inherent in criticizing a guy's wife, boat, truck.... I'd also add be careful when talking about his "water". Every piece of water has its own charm, beauty or usefulness. That was what got me going on "River Horse", he insulted the beauty of my beloved Columbia and Snake Rivers. Despite my "The West is the Best" signature line, I've found wonderful water in Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Hawaii, Panama, Costa Rica..... all over. Of course I play up the Columbia River because of its huge Chinook salmon, but British Columbia has us for beauty. I play up Washington State for its variety of game, but Alabama has us for whitetails and turkey. I love our Puget Sound Shrimp, but they don't hold a candle to fresh shrimp from the Gulf of Mexico (though Dungeness Crab beat any from there) I love our green surroundings & mountains and Alaska for having even more of the same.... but honestly... our weather sucks most of the year.... yet Hawaii is 80 year round... and don't the natives has some interesting customs regarding apparel.

But honestly.... there are some dam* ugly and useless dogs out there.
C.W.
 
CW":3on02jk0 said:
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But honestly.... there are some dam* ugly and useless dogs out there.
C.W.
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Them's fightin' words to dog lovers!

"I never met a dog I didn't like." - Will Rogers (sic)

Not having a dog is a life not worth living.

All creatures great and small can be loved for their role in the great scheme of Mother Nature.

Dog haters are the scum of the Earth, unfit to relate to not only dogs, but most other humans as well.

Ugly dogs are the unfortunate result of human errors and the random recombination of genes separated by specialized breeding. Blaming the dog is like boring a big hole in the bottom of your boat and blaming its sinking on the incoming water.

Dog lovers unite, we'll show CW the door to the doghouse!

Merry Christmas from a dog lover! :dog :dog :dog

Joe. :thup :xlol
 
I've loved dogs my entire life and have spent the best of times with them too, even when I packed out a 70 lb. female out five miles on the railroad tracks along the Snake river after a chukar hunt. We usually had German Shorthairs, then I shifted to labradors these past 12 years. I prefer their company to many humans. But there are plenty of dogs I wouldn't want. Some boats are money pits too, but discretion should keep one from telling the owner that. And wives, well, like I say, I think we are talking about discretion, not absolutes. C.W.

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Sensei
Hey Rodger, aftre reading your post and then taking a gander at your album I have to agree with you. The classic is one good looking boat. Maybe not the best, [ that goes to the Bootleg Hooch] but good looking never the less. There is just the right amount of differances to make the classic stand out Would sure like to see some interior shots of your boat

Chuck
Bootleg Hooch
 
Spending time with dogs have been a fine addition to my time on the planet. My Newfie's been gone for 3 years but his impact on his human companions remains. He was a gentleman and a beast. When the border collie and I go hiking the big dog's absence is still noted.
Hunting as part of a pack quickly shows us our human inadequacies while pointing out their canine proficiencies. We doubt their intellect because they don't use words but watch them close and you'll see them talk, hunt with them and you'll see them strategize and calculate.
Besides, many a pleasant moment has been spent discussing the merits of dogs, guns, and women.
Mike "Levity"
 
I noticed that several people feel the C-25 isn't an "angler", which I assume means it's hard to fish from. So when I saw a boat review in the So Cal paper The Log (Dec 14), I was fascinated. The boat is a Scout Abaco 262 Walk Around.

One of the features is a 35 sq ft cockpit, which was "plenty of fishing room." so I went down and measured Journey On. 35 sq ft of open cockpit in a C-25. The Scout Abaco also has a fully cushioned V-berth, enclosed head with freshwater shower, etc. which sounds familiar. The walkaround is the same as the C-25: don't try it in high seas. It does have a one scoop bait tank and fish storage. The C-25 motor well adds enough room for a bait tank. The Abaco has a T-top, instead of an enclosed cabin.

I guess it's close enough to the C-25 that I could call Journey On an angler, except I bought it as a cruiser. And didn't cost $120,000. And doesn't come with 300 HP on the stern.

Boris
 
journey on":2ey9tkxc said:
I noticed that several people feel the C-25 isn't an "angler", which I assume means it's hard to fish from. So when I saw a boat review in the So Cal paper The Log (Dec 14), I was fascinated. The boat is a Scout Abaco 262 Walk Around.

One of the features is a 35 sq ft cockpit, which was "plenty of fishing room." so I went down and measured Journey On. 35 sq ft of open cockpit in a C-25. The Scout Abaco also has a fully cushioned V-berth, enclosed head with freshwater shower, etc. which sounds familiar. The walkaround is the same as the C-25: don't try it in high seas. It does have a one scoop bait tank and fish storage. The C-25 motor well adds enough room for a bait tank. The Abaco has a T-top, instead of an enclosed cabin.

I guess it's close enough to the C-25 that I could call Journey On an angler, except I bought it as a cruiser. And didn't cost $120,000. And doesn't come with 300 HP on the stern.

Boris
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Boris-

I don't know of anything that would make a CD-25 hard to fish from or any different than any other boat os a similar design, except the raised self-bailing floor, but lots of boats have this feature.

I think that if you're out in chop and/or swells, the higher you are above the bottom of the hull the more you get tossed around. Also, you get a much more secure feeling in a boat standing right in the bottom of the hull itself rather than being up higher and on top of a raised platform floor.

We learned that fact dramatically racing dinghy sailboats for 33 years. Up higher is awkward, slow, and makes you seasick more readily.

One of the things some of us like about the CD-22 is the lack of a raised, self bailing floor.

Nice talking with you!

Merry Christmas!

Joe.
 
Hi We have the Venture 23. It's a little bigger than the C dory22 but you still have to be willing to cut what you take on board to the absolute minimum.We really like how easy it is to tow VS the much heavier 25 and are glad we went smaller. Good luck .
 
James is right....

Fran joined, made two post...and vanished...and has a CD25 in his profile.

No matter what size and/or manu boat someone buys...I have always liked talking with folks who have bought one in the last 6-18 months and talk QC issues from the factory on their boats.

Sea Ray is a well built boat in TN. There was a very brief period when they were attempting to cut cost and buy foreign wiring parts.... That ended up being very "Un-Sea Ray" like as far as quality...workmanship and materials that truly last... They quickly went back to what had work for years, and fixed those with the bad parts.

Then, with the web and phones, contact a few dealerships who handle them and find out what kind of service/communications they have with the factory.

Any boat cost a lot today. We need to be sure we get delivered what was expected/promised...from the factory and the dealer.

Byrdman
 
Only about 10% of architects are artistically competent. And only 2% are great artists. All are trained engineers who can successfully engineer a building (at least usually), but only a few are the elite who can design something that works and at the same time is truly beautiful. Look around anywhere and you'll see what is meant. Tons of functional buildings, very few that are truly beautiful, that catch your eye and mind and make you feel good to see them.

Agreed 100%...Wright, Corbusier...architects / artists. Most buildings today are just regurgitated copies of the one next to it. That aside...

C-Dory enjoy such a huge popularity I am certain, it is because of their lines. The 16 Cruiser in my opinion is the epitome of design in small cruising boats. We all succomb to her spell. It is indeed through a casual glance in a boat trader magazine when I turned a page and there she was...absolutely gorgeous, perfect proportions, seemingly coming towards me, alive, right from the photograph. From that point on she is in my dreams, on my sketch pad, but yet, so far away... hopefully moored at a boathouse next year :cry:

Marc
 
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