V700 windlass retrieve issue

I, too, wanted to make sure I wasn't giving up the benefits of "good old" three-strand nylon in terms of elongation. From what I understand reading this chart (which I looked at before going with Brait), the Brait actually absorbs more energy than three-strand (Yale makes both).

http://www.yalecordage.com/pleasure-mar ... brait.html

Scroll down about 3/4 of the way for "Energy Absorption Comparison."
 
journey on":27ele7yu said:
Nylon plaited line/rope/rode has a slightly higher average tensile strength than 3 strand nylon: for 1/2" plait: 8300#, 3 strand: 6300#. Since the equivalent cross sectional are is what gives line it's strength, for the same material, it's seems reasonable to assume that the plait , though nylon, doesn't stretch as much.

I changed from 3 strand to 6 strand plait and I certainly can't tell the difference. I got the plait because it's more flexed and Lewmar recommended it for the V700. I finally changed the capstan back to the V600, since it works better. They're interchangeable.

Boris
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When you said you can't tell the difference, did you mean in relation to how the two lines perform with your windless ( no difference in kinking), or just the difference in stretch between the two?

Didn't know about the V600 capstan interchangeability and it being better, thanks for the tip.

Can you tell me what brand of 6 strand plait line you have?

Tom
 
Tom here's my comments on your questions.

First, the V600 capstan has somewhat different teeth from the V700 and the rope part of the rode (sorry, I couldn't resist,) fits deeper and pulls better in the V600. That said, I only changed because I had a V600 capstan left over when I replaced the windlass. I certainly wouldn't go out and buy a V600 capstan.

I believe I had trouble at first because I tried using the old, stiff anchor line on the new windlass and it wasn't gripping; I had to tail the line from the anchor locker.

So, my solution was to get 200' of 6-plait line and splice that to the chain. My splice isn't neat but it's held for 3 years. The plaited line is more supple, so it meshes better with the capstan. But then so should new 3 strand. I bought the plait because it was sexy and on sale and Judy wanted the anchor to hold. It was made by Samson, I believe. I don't know if they still made it. Any line made in America should do as well.

It flakes better than the 3 strand and works with either capstan. And it's held Journey On nailed to the ground. Actually, I changed to the V600 capstan after we came home, so the V700 must of worked for the rest of our time in the San Juan's.

Now you know as much as I do. My comment is just go ahead do the best you can and quit worrying. You got all the right stuff. Though I've always had an ACCO swivel in every anchor rode I've had and they've never failed. I don't buy the offshore stuff for anchoring, even those made in Italy.

Boris
 
Boris, thanks for getting back and the details. I bought my V700 a few yrs ago from a West coast service center in CA., shortly after it changed from the Washington location. When he asked me to send in my former Sprint 600 (was Simpson Lawrence before Lewmar bought them if I remember correctly) he didn't mention capstan interchangeability.

Sounds like you like your 6 plait line more than the 3strand, and will do it again when you need to replace rode.

I am going to keep my 3 strand line as it is not very old, and try some of the things mentioned on this thread. If it doesn't work well enough then its on to plaited line. I was told by Josh, tech. support at Lewmar, that plaited line is softer and sometimes has more tendency to slip. He recommended going with the 3 strand first, then switching if other solutions not working.

I take it you did not have slippage issues with the 6 plait and the V700, before changing to the 600 capstan?

Tom
 
Sorry missed your question re diameter of line. I use the bow line (mooring line) that I keep permanently attached to the boy eye. It's 3/8 inch. No problems with slipping. A rolling hitch normally takes two wraps, I'll do a third wrap if needed. George
 
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