Replacing a Wallas Stove Wick....

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Casey

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I have a single burner Wallas stove. It starts-up and runs ok, but the heat output isn't even close to what I experienced with the (previous) two burner Wallas.

Last week I called Mike at Wallas, and he indicated the stove may need a new wick ... of course that's about a $200 job at the factory. (Mike indicated that the Wallas needs to be run about one hour a month to keep from "waxing" up. That doesn't coincide with my previous (two burner) experience, but I'll go with what he said.)

Does anyone have any experience replacing one of these "wicks" and is it feasible to to do it yourself?

I would also appreciate other ideas as to how I might increase the heat output on the 2006 single-burner outfit. I've now switched over to Klean Heat, and added a bit of alcohol, per the Wallas instruction manual.

Unlike some, I've always had pretty good experience wth the Wallas stove, and hope to continue using it.

Best,
Casey
"Katmai" Venture 23
...just back from a (cold) two week St. John's River trip
 
I recently met with Casey in Welaka on the St Johns River (hi Casey :-), and I must compliment him on his beautiful new Venture 23. An abundance of room, it seems twice as big as my 22 Cruiser. About the only thing significant he lacks is my ac/dc refrigerator, which I really appreciate, and of course he has the #!@##% Wallas stove. I had one, and replaced with an Origo alcohol stove, which I like because it has two moving parts and I'm confident I could repair the thing if it ever breaks, which I think is very unlikely.

There seem to be three categories of Wallas owners. The first contains those that have never had a failure with their Wallas, and are happy as clams, because when it works, I'll admit it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. The second category contains those who are mechanically adept, and have taken the time to become intimately familiar with the innards of the Wallas, so they can fix it when it breaks. The third category, into which I fit when I had a Wallas, are those mechanically challenged people who have no alternative than to send their Wallas off to the factory when it breaks, at a cost of at least $200 per.

Casey, my advice, taken with a grain of salt and given tongue in cheek; get an Origo. But, if you don't take that advice, I hope this is your only failure with the wallas, and from now on you fit in category 1. Best of luck, Smitty
 
I have had the twin burner apart twice a few years ago. if you take it out and flip it up side down and take your time you can figure how to take it apart. and maybe get it back together. I did not see a wick, unless that's what they are calling the round flat pad at the bottom of the combustion chamber. very thin piece of fabric. once you get to it just pull it out and insert another one. very straight forward,would be more so with a manual.
 
Casey;
My friend has the single burner Wallas in his boat and I have the two burner Wallas in my boat.
His single burner is a completely different stove then my two burner. His single burner runs on kerosene mine runs on diesel. Mike at Scan Marine told him to never put diesel in his stove and told me to avoid putting anything but diesel in mine.
The way they ignight is different, the glow plugs are different, the fuel pump is different, and the temperature range is way different. My two burner is much hotter and reaches a higher temp a lot quicker.
Last week I took my stove in for a service after five years of trouble free use, Mike replaced the intake fan, the glow plug and the fuel mat in the combustion chamber. I made arrangements with Mike before I brought it in and he finished working on my stove in about 4 hours while I messed around in Pikes Market. The total bill was about $280 by the time I would of bought the parts and did the work myself I think I got a great deal.
If it was me with your stove and your location, I would put the stove in a small cooler and pack it with foam and send it to Scan Marine and have the pro's fix it.
Just my two cents.
Dave.
Raven Dancer.
 
Big dave":10suz8ce said:
My friend has the single burner Wallas in his boat and I have the two burner Wallas in my boat.

His single burner is a completely different stove then my two burner. His single burner runs on kerosene mine runs on diesel. Mike at Scan Marine told him to never put diesel in his stove and told me to avoid putting anything but diesel in mine.

The way they ignight is different, the glow plugs are different, the fuel pump is different, and the temperature range is way different. My two burner is much hotter and reaches a higher temp a lot quicker.
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I was talking to Scan Marine at the SBS about a 1-burner for my 22. He said it puts out enough heat for the 22 and that the factor used to install them in 22s. I have had good luck with my 2-burner on my Tom Cat, but it is about a grand more than the 1-burner unit. It's good to have your comments in hand before committing. Now I am back to not knowing what to do. I don't want propane, and I don't want alcohol. <sigh>

Warren
 
The "single burner" Wallas has only 60% the heat output of the "two burner". The reality is both stoves only have one burner. The larger stove has more area to extract more BTU's and deliver them to the living space. I bet your stove is fine...just doesn't have the heating capacity you remember from your larger stove. I don't think I would want to try and get by with the smaller stove in a 22...let alone a bigger boat.
 
Thanks folks - good replies, All.

Chris, I think you're correct. Smaller stove, bigger boat; there's got to be a tradeoff. As I recall, the two burner Wallas claims that one burner has approximately twice the heat output of the other burner. I suspect what we have here is the less-hot burner, which is probably working fine; it just wasn't what I was expecting.

So ... my solution will be to travel in less cold areas! Gee's who would have thought that since I'm in FLORIDA for God Sake!

Thanks Brat's!

Best,
Casey
...at home in The Villages (and maybe planning a trip around the South Florida Loop!) Stay Tuned!
 
BTW when you all line up to order your new C Dorys [ I just did, so weve got you covered], the 22 comes with a one burner Wallas option . I suppose we can change it to a two burner on request .
Marc
 
I've got the two burner and have been quite happy with it. But I've noticed that when using it while underway, occasionally I get a very stinky smell onboard and the lights start blinking like it's turning off. Typically this happens in rough water. Is this normal? And is there any way of preventing it?
 
dont want to hi-jack the post but i have to.


why are people in general scared of propane? I would want propane in my boat and may switch, next boat will have propane cook top for sure. For me its just a matter of cooking ability and heat control. don't know if you have noticed my profile but I like good food. you can not cook really good food with out controlling the heat and a flame is the best way to do that.

As for the safety issue as long as the gas is not in a confined space the most you can hope for is a quick flash burn back to the source and then a small sooty flame. the only time a propane tank will explode is if a closed tank ( no pressure release) is heated and then it will only rupture unless there is a open flame to ignite the gas.

I would get calls every summer from new propane costumers. They would have the tank installed when they moved in or in the winter and not like that big white tank in their back yards. so they have hubby paint the tank brown or dark green or even black. First warm sunny day the tank heats up and blows a release valve and out goes all the propane. never had one light off. just makes a hell of a noise and scares folks.

Now I would not want to heat with propane for the fumes and mositure issues but would use a vented central type heater as many here have. but for cooking a flame is the best.
 
starcrafttom":1fwjufpu said:
dont want to hi-jack the post but i have to.


why are people in general scared of propane? I would want propane in my boat and may switch, next boat will have propane cook top for sure. For me its just a matter of cooking ability and heat control. don't know if you have noticed my profile but I like good food. you can not cook really good food with out controlling the heat and a flame is the best way to do that.

As for the safety issue as long as the gas is not in a confined space the most you can hope for is a quick flash burn back to the source and then a small sooty flame. the only time a propane tank will explode is if a closed tank ( no pressure release) is heated and then it will only rupture unless there is a open flame to ignite the gas.

I would get calls every summer from new propane costumers. They would have the tank installed when they moved in or in the winter and not like that big white tank in their back yards. so they have hubby paint the tank brown or dark green or even black. First warm sunny day the tank heats up and blows a release valve and out goes all the propane. never had one light off. just makes a hell of a noise and scares folks.

Now I would not want to heat with propane for the fumes and mositure issues but would use a vented central type heater as many here have. but for cooking a flame is the best.
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Wow...Hasn’t this been hashed out as much as the twin vs single issue? :roll:
 
Hi Casey- We have the single Wallas &it heats great.We’ve only used the mineral spirits that the instructions recommended.A lot of people seem to have problems with the wallas so it’s probably just a matter of time.Hope you come up with a fix. While I’m at it, we sealed & painted the bottom in 2008 before our Loop trip. I’d rather have gel coat but when you’re in the water for an extended period you have to paint. It was pricey also.
Good cruising-Alan
 
Wefings":16ic6pxp said:
BTW when you all line up to order your new C Dorys [ I just did, so weve got you covered], the 22 comes with a one burner Wallas option . I suppose we can change it to a two burner on request .
Marc
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Marc, are most people happy with the 1-burner on their 22s in the winter? I don't go boating when the ambient temps are below freezing, so my minimum cold is probably similar to the minimum in FL.

Warren
 
20dauntless":3gie43ow said:
Thanks for the tip TripleJ, I'll have to try it out.
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Hot glue will not hurt your gel coat, and if you don’t like the mod just pull off and peal the glue. I do find however, that when traveling at +20mph the Wallas will start back drafting if set on low; I think if a larger diameter pipe is used this anomaly might disappear.

Also, if you go to the Scan Marine site they have a section that describes this exact application using a cowl vent.

Jay
 
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