Questions for CD22 Angler Owners

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Westie

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Hi there,

I'm getting very close to sending specs for a new CD22 angler to the factory. I have a couple miscellaneous questions that will help me cross the finish line:

1) I plan to raise the stove to make better use of the space behind the captain’s chair (similar to Glenda Jean's mod). Should I order the wallas from the factory (~$2600 installed) but uninstalled or are there non-factory stoves I should consider? I will mainly use the stove as a cabin heater when spending an overnight. I'll heat the occasional coffee but it would not ever be a hardcore galley!
2) I'm trying to decide between the transom bar and cooler rack. How has the cooler rack performed? Do you always use it? I like the look of the transom bar but keeping the cooler off the cockpit is very functional for my needs. I could maybe use it to rack crab traps too.
3) What are the max number of anglers you've fishing from your CD22 Angler? My previous boat was a 28' and I'm having some anxiety to downsizing. That said, I really want to trailer this boat without the hassle of a heavy 28 footer!
4) What are you storing in your aft compartments? As I said above, I'm downsizing so I have concerns over storage. I typically have loads of fishing gear with me.
5) Any thoughts on general options best done either at the factory or away from the factory?

Right now, I plan to have the factory install anchor pipe, windlass, hand rails, trim tab, hydraulic steering, driver electric wiper, and battery panel.

I'm debating lighting options, wallas, transom rack/cooler, and a few options smaller things.

I'm looking forward to your suggestions.
 
You'll find that owners here either love or hate their Wallas stove/heater. I've not had much in the way of problems with mine over the past 10+ years of ownership but others have. The pluses are that the exhaust vents outside the boat and doesn't generate water condensation inside the boat, that a single unit serves both the heater and stove function and the ceramic cooktop is easy to clean. The downside is that they are quite expensive, a bit slow to heat and (for some) somewhat prone to failure. If you don't plan on cooking on it much, I'd suggest you install a purpose built diesel and then use a propane stove in the cockpit for quickly heating water for coffee. Many have installed Espar or Wallas heaters and some have installed Force 10 heaters. Do a quick search on the site for that. Some of the purpose built heaters will also allow you to attach a variety of air ducting systems that can be used to direct heat to the windows to keep them clear.

I have a Wallas diesel stove and heater on the current boat but if I just want water for coffee, it's a lot faster to pull out a single or two burner Coleman propane stove.

I didn't have the cooler rack on my 22 but if I were to get another 22, I'd order it. As for the number that can easily fish from the 22 Angler, I'd say 4 from the Angler and 3-4 for the 22' cruiser.
 
Westie":297epi5w said:
Hi there,

I'm getting very close to sending specs for a new CD22 angler to the factory. I have a couple miscellaneous questions that will help me cross the finish line:

1) I plan to raise the stove to make better use of the space behind the captain’s chair (similar to Glenda Jean's mod). Should I order the wallas from the factory (~$2600 installed) but uninstalled or are there non-factory stoves I should consider? I will mainly use the stove as a cabin heater when spending an overnight. I'll heat the occasional coffee but it would not ever be a hardcore galley!
2) I'm trying to decide between the transom bar and cooler rack. How has the cooler rack performed? Do you always use it? I like the look of the transom bar but keeping the cooler off the cockpit is very functional for my needs. I could maybe use it to rack crab traps too.
3) What are the max number of anglers you've fishing from your CD22 Angler? My previous boat was a 28' and I'm having some anxiety to downsizing. That said, I really want to trailer this boat without the hassle of a heavy 28 footer!
4) What are you storing in your aft compartments? As I said above, I'm downsizing so I have concerns over storage. I typically have loads of fishing gear with me.
5) Any thoughts on general options best done either at the factory or away from the factory?

Right now, I plan to have the factory install anchor pipe, windlass, hand rails, trim tab, hydraulic steering, driver electric wiper, and battery panel.

I'm debating lighting options, wallas, transom rack/cooler, and a few options smaller things.

I'm looking forward to your suggestions.
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1. That is a steep price for the stove from the factory. I told my dealer that I'd buy the stove and install it myself. We worked out a deal where the dealer would install the stove considerably cheaper than the factory price. I like the single burner Walas but there are other options for heating/cooking.

2. I like those transom cooler mounts except for one thing, they concentrate a huge weight at the very back of the boat. Those big coolers full of ice/fish are quite heavy. I opted to get the transom bar and mount rod holders instead. I like being able to move heavy coolers around as needed in order to level the boat and as seats. Sometimes I use a large 100 qt. cooler in the center of the deck. That works well allowing one to fish all the way around the cockpit and have center seating. Other times I use two 48 qt. coolers which can be moved around as needed for seating/leveling/moving weight forward or aft as needed to trim the boat to suit me.

3. I'm usually alone or just one other along on each trip. Plenty of room for two. Four can easily fish off the Angler, more than that is just too many not to mention the capacity limits of the boat.

4. The only things in my rear compartments are batteries. One on each side. There is some room for storage there even with the batteries but not a lot. So far I've not used it for anything other than the batteries.

5. That sort of depends on you. Often you can install items cheaper than the factory, but if you aren't the sort that enjoys doing that kind of work it might be simpler to let the factory or your dealer do it. My boat was fairly simple from the factory, electric wipers, two battery system with VSR, fuel/water filter, transom bar, hydraulic steering, and trim tabs. The dealer installed the Wallas stove, swim platform and bimini. I installed everything else on the boat, but I like doing that sort of stuff. A lot of people just pay the manufacturer or dealer to fit the boat out the way they want it. One dealer I spoke with insisted on installing things I didn't want. Needless to say I didn't buy from that dealer. If you install a stove/heater be sure to add a smoke/carbon monoxide detector. They aren't required on all boats but if you're going to have a source of either in the cabin either add one yourself or have the dealer do so.

Installing things yourself also lets you be sure it was done well. Factory workers just do the work, not always well. I had leaks from both of my roof hand rails and one of the bow rail stanchions. The nav/anchor light switch was miswired and the screw holes for the trim tabs were drilled much deeper than the screw was long leaving a number of voids in the transom. Doing it yourself often means not having to fix things later. But, again, if you're going to pay someone to do that sort of work because you don't want to do it, the factory guys are probably as good as anyone.
 
I'll add my 2 cents for what it is worth regarding the Wallas stove. This is my 3rd year with mine and never had a problem. The dealer told me, if you do not use it much, fire it up for at least one hour a month every month, and remember to start it on high and shut it off on high. It's the old saying, "use it or lose it".
I agree with most everything Roger said. Now if I was starting with a brand new boat. I would consider the Wallas forced air heater placed somewhere under the galley sink. With the forced air ducting you can get the heat to all parts of the boat. I would then have two single burner portable butane stoves, they cost less than $40 each. Keep one handy for regular use and one in a storage bin for the odd occasion you need two rings going at the same time. You can buy an awful lot of butane canisters for the price of a $2,200 Wallas stove. This set-up also gives you a lot more counter top space in the galley.
The other plus with the butane stove is, if it breaks down, trash it and replace it, it won't break the bank. BTW, I am on about my 6th year with my portable butane stove, never had a failure.

Martin.
 
Something to think about - I have the 19 Angler which does not come with the bulkhead/doors. I did have the drop curtain made and to be honest, hardly ever use it. When trolling it's a lot easier to see the rods without any obstruction. I know I have seen one 22 Angler awhile back that did not have the bulkhead. Hopefully someone with experience will chime in on this. Just something to think about.
 
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