Price shopping tips, with West Marine.

Capital Sea

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For those who live near a West Marine, as I do, I have learned a few things in my recent project. West Marine will match any regular price for the same item so long as they can verify the price. They also offer some additional advantages, such as free shipping and easy no fee return and in one case they agreed to order an item in just so I could see it and without obligation. I found my new bow roller as well as anchor line/chain much cheeper on line, one at defender and the other at Rope inc, then I called and after checking they matched the price, my boat show coupon was good for another $15 off. The savings on the anchor line and chain was $130 less than the normal WM price.
For many this will be old news. My advice is be nice but bold. They must remain competitive with the online discount companies or they will fall by the wayside and as long as they do, I will support them.
 
Capital Sea-

We've used this several times, and it works fine.

You do need to bring in to them a print out of the article wanted listed on the site you found it, so that they can save time finding and verifying it online.

They will add in the shipping, which you would have to pay to the online source, of course, then add in the local sales tax, since you're buying it a the local store.

The result is you'll pay what you would to to an online, out of state source, PLUS local sales tax, so it will be a bit more than the online cost, by 6-8%, or whatever your local tax amounts to, but it's convenient to have the store right there to return the item to if there are issues.

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
Defender
V700 Windlass
$735.99
$15.95 ups ground
Total: $751.94

West Marine
$839 + sales tax

Price Match:
751.94 + sales tax

Savings:
$87.06

Plus, the West Marine Ho Hassle Guarantee: no charge, but priceless

There are two ways to save big time at West Marine: price matching when you buy, and how you handle returns. The savings on either end of the transaction can be substantial.

When buying, probably the best place to get information for price matching is defender.com. You can go to other sites if you want, but this is the best place to begin. Have a detailed list of what you want to buy at West Marine, and then locate each of the items at Defender, enter your quantities, put the items in your on-line basket, and when you have them all, have the shipping and tax calculated. Then, and only then, print the result. As noted below, it’s also worth your time to print the Defender basket before having shipping added.

If you group everything together, you minimize the shipping that would be charged. Be sure that all items on your list are shown as in stock, and that they are identical to items available at West. Identical means same item, same mfg. part number, same everything. Don’t mess around with “close”, “similar” or the like.

If you want to go to other web sites, that’s fine, but bring the Defender info with you to West Marine, because that will be accepted without question.

If you want to make this worth your while, you have to be going after high-margin items on which the price can vary. The markup on electronics (radios, radar, gps) is low, and some items have prices set by manufacturers. You won’t same much there. But, items such as electrical components (wire, fuse and breaker panels, etc.), plumbing, hardware, anchoring, etc. have very high margins, and you can expect substantial price differentials on these. Bottom paint price differentials can be more than substantial.

Some West Marine stores will match the Defender price without charging you for the shipping that Defender would have charged – others add the shipping. So, you’re best off to take two Defender printouts: one before shipping is added, and another with shipping. Try to use the no-shipping one first and see if that works. If West Marine wants to add shipping, see if you can get them to add it at the rate they charge, which is highly discounted. If all fails, go with the other Defender printout.

West will add state & local sales tax at the register, which you probably wouldn’t have paid at Defender. You can do the math in advance, but if you’re buying the right items, the savings will still be worth your while.

At the register, make sure the purchase is run through on your West Advantage/Boat U.S. number number. First, you get points for the amount paid, and, second, the transaction goes into West Marine’s computers, so there’s a record of the purchase, detailing each item, and the price paid. Whether or not a member, keep all receipts for purchases at West Marine. You’ll find they come in handy later.

Now, for the return. Virtually every product at West Marine comes with a manufacturer’s warranty. If you’re interested in the term of that warranty, check the catalog. If there’s any problem during the warranty period, bring the item back, with your receipt. If it’s more than 30 days since the purchase, your best bet is to replace with a new unit, or to offer to take a gift card back for full amount paid. The credit will include sales tax, and should also include shipping for which you were charged, but which West Marine didn’t actually pay. You might or might not be successful on the shipping, but that’s not a big deal.

But, this is where the return process gets interesting. Read the West Marine “No Hassle Guarantee”, and try to figure out what it means. Here’s what it says:

“Satisfaction Guaranteed: We’ve had the same “No Hassle Guarantee” from our very first day in business. If you are ever dissatisfied with any purchase you make from us, simply return it. We’ll replace the item or issue a company credit for the items you return. We want you to have complete peace of mind on every purchase you make from West Marine."

Store managers hate the No Hassle Guarantee, because what it means in practice is that merchandise that is within, or outside, the manufacturer’s warranty period is taken back, full or near-full credit given the customer, and the item is then hit a few times with a hammer, painted yellow, and thrown in the dumpster. The bolder customers simply say “I’m not satisfied with this”, while those with more discretion say “my friends say there’s static whenever I try to transmit, and sometimes it won’t transmit at all.” Most of these customers are telling the truth.

Some store managers, and a few sales associates who are trying to save the company from itself, will try to tell you that once the manufacturer’s warranty has expired, you’re out of luck. Others will tell you that during the warranty period, your only recourse is through the manufacturer. But, few will resist a customer who says “The company has a no hassle guarantee policy, and I want another unit (or, a credit for the purchase price), and if I can’t get it here, I’m going to call corporate and ask why store #___ won’t honor the guarantee published over the signature of Randy Repass.” If all else fails, stop by another West Marine store in your later travels. You’ll have no trouble finding one more cooperative.

This Guarantee is a real reason for shopping at West Marine. They make up for it’s cost with sales of other items. It’s in their best interest, and yours.
 
As an online dealer I can tell you WM sometimes charges 100% over cost. Considering the quantity they buy, they would no doubt be able to buy at rates even lower than my dealer cost. Of course they have the largest operation and brick and mortar stores and thus the requirement for higher prices.

As pointed out the best benefit to shopping online is the sales tax savings.
 
Seawolf, bringing in the ad is a good idea, but one point I was making is WM has stopped adding in the freight. In the case of the price quote I gave them, I pointed out that although freight might be a factor, I would not have to pay sales tax and it took about two seconds for the assistant manager to base the match on the online price net of shipping.
So again, as WM feels sales slip, they are being more aggressive in matching price.
 
What is sales tax? Never heard of it.......You guys have it rough. I normally just pay West Marine whatever they want as I don't want the only national store that we have up this way to close. Plus, most of the time they are cheaper anyway as the lower 48 hasn't figured out that most of Alaska is part of the Continental US. Since your market is more competitive, I don't blame you for bargaining for the best deal.
 
Does West Marine match all on line dealers? (I suspect not). I have a Port Supply account--and usually this is cheaper than the on line, but not always. It is certainly cheaper. As for electronics--will West match--for example Matt's prices?
 
T.R. Bauer wrote:
What is sales tax?

Talk like that could easily get you inundated with disgruntled Arnoldlanders.

Up til now, I was thinking of moving up there.....you know........just for the halibut!

But even here in taxaholic California we would certainly miss Westmarine and I've been really concerned recently when it's only me and the 3 sales people in the store searching for a couple SS screws.

Chris
 
cemiii":3dtaun42 said:
T.R. Bauer wrote:
What is sales tax?

Talk like that could easily get you inundated with disgruntled Arnoldlanders.

Up til now, I was thinking of moving up there.....you know........just for the halibut!

But even here in taxaholic California we would certainly miss Westmarine and I've been really concerned recently when it's only me and the 3 sales people in the store searching for a couple SS screws.

Chris

I hear you....tell the Arnoldlanders that the entire city of Cordova would love it if they moved there. They have been wanting a taco bell for some time........Have a good one :)

Tim
 
cemiii":fxxqypv9 said:
T.R. Bauer wrote:
What is sales tax?

Talk like that could easily get you inundated with disgruntled Arnoldlanders.

Up til now, I was thinking of moving up there.....you know........just for the halibut!

But even here in taxaholic California we would certainly miss Westmarine and I've been really concerned recently when it's only me and the 3 sales people in the store searching for a couple SS screws.

Chris


Not to promote an argument, but I suspect the reason you don't have sales tax is that the rest of the United States pays enough for Alaskan Oil that your revenues on its production and shipment allow it to be ZERO.

In effect, our gas purchases pay for YOUR SALES TAX!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :disgust :sad :crook

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
Sea Wolf":3mgp0js2 said:
cemiii":3mgp0js2 said:
T.R. Bauer wrote:
What is sales tax?

Talk like that could easily get you inundated with disgruntled Arnoldlanders.

Up til now, I was thinking of moving up there.....you know........just for the halibut!

But even here in taxaholic California we would certainly miss Westmarine and I've been really concerned recently when it's only me and the 3 sales people in the store searching for a couple SS screws.

Chris


Not to promote an argument, but I suspect the reason you don't have sales tax is that the rest of the United States pays enough for Alaskan Oil that your revenues on its production and shipment allow it to be ZERO.

In effect, our gas purchases pay for YOUR SALES TAX!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :disgust :sad :crook

Joe. :teeth :thup

Joe,

You are absolutely right. I appreciated what you do every single day. I am sure that I speak for all Alaskans in saying thank you! However, with that said, I would rather buy something in Washington and pay sales than not pay sales tax in Alaska as chances are I would be money ahead in the deal just about every single time. I can't imagine paying 15-20 percent more for something just because it is in Alaska and then paying 8-10 percent on top of that to help run the disfunctional state government. But, whatever.....Truth is, there are lots of places with sales tax in Alaska, where I live has one, but the state doesn't have one yet. That will change someday I am certain. Once again, you clearly are right and we all appreciate you being nice enough to buy our oil..... But, I remember the topic being something about negotiating with West Marine. Sorry for getting off subject guys :)

Tim
 
Yup, its the oil revenue from federal leases. Alaska, would be easier to respect as a state if they would cooperate with the West coast and Canada on salmon policy and invest a reasonable amount of that Oil Rev on Salmon stock restoration..
 
Capital Sea":2kj8edug said:
Yup, its the oil revenue from federal leases. Alaska, would be easier to respect as a state if they would cooperate with the West coast and Canada on salmon policy and invest a reasonable amount of that Oil Rev on Salmon stock restoration..

Capital Sea,

I guess I can't resist.....

The leases for oil are held by the state and not the feds. But, money is money who's arguing.....

Why would Alaska want to follow a fish management program that results in the salmon fishery that Washington, Oregon, and British Columbia have? That is good for fish? I thought your stock numbers were falling like a rock in many areas due to habitat changes, fish farms, and over fishing. Is that the plan you think we should adopt?

The reason our fishery is what it is is because we have not followed that plan. The fishery is managed like crazy and a good deal of money goes into salmon stock restoration where it is needed. But, according to the policy that is followed, wild stocks are protected to insure future runs and escapement is met before commercial fishing is allowed in many cases. That is one major reason why there are still salmon in Alaska. When the feds managed it in the mid 50s (using the model you mention) many commercially harvestable stocks were in great jeopardy due to years of over fishing a lack of oversight.

Just curious, which rivers would you like to sea Alaska oil revenue restore runs on in Alaska? Or, are you saying that Alaska should divert oil money revenue to restock the Columbia? What are you saying?

I am confused a little here.....
 
I just bought a Garmin Colorado 400C from WM. They had the best price I have found. I got two discounts, one a discount from previous purchases, and the other as a coupon for renewing my Tow boatUS membership. Some things I buy online. Others I like to buy in person. I like having WM around, because I like to actually hold some things before I buy. I can also get good info from them. If I pay a premium for things, that is a price I have to pay to get to go to a real store in my town.
 
Just to lighten things up around here a bit...

Maybe we could trade you guys and gals up there Arnold for Sarah?

or, ................................... maybe not!.......

or maybe we could go to West Marine and exchange them both???

Does the WM "Satisfaction Guaranteed / No Hassle Guarantee" policy apply?


All criticism aside, the Governator has tried his best to solve a myriad of budgetary problems down here, but party politics and the continuing belief in the Infinite Well of Free Public Tax Money has kept the legislature from realistically dealing with limited resources, IMHO.

Now back to our regular scheduled programming........


Joe. :lol: :thup
 
Sea Wolf":1gctvec9 said:
Just to lighten things up around here a bit...

Maybe we could trade you guys and gals up there Arnold for Sarah?

or, ................................... maybe not!.......

or maybe we could go to West Marine and exchange them both???

Does the WM "Satisfaction Guaranteed / No Hassle Guarantee" policy apply?


All criticism aside, the Governator has tried his best to solve a myriad of budgetary problems down here, but party politics and the continuing belief in the Infinite Well of Free Public Tax Money has kept the legislature from realistically dealing with limited resources, IMHO.

Now back to our regular scheduled programming........


Joe. :lol: :thup

Joe,

Very cute and very clever. Thanks for guiding us back on topic. I love having West Marine in Anchorage. They are a very good business to have here. It is also nice to now have Sportsman Warehouse in Wasilla and Anchorage. I have found it wonderful to walk into a store and actually buy something that I can touch, feel, and ask a real person something about. It is so much better than the internet and I personally am willing to pay considerably more for their convenience and expertise.

But, if price is the only consideration, there are some real deals out there if you are willing to chance it a little. I have heard horror stories from those who have bought from businesses online, and the fact that many companies want a small fortune to ship here, it is a deal breaker. I have also heard from fishing buds that there are great places to buy stuff online too. However, I don't always buy from West Marine and Sportsman Warehouse as I do occasionally buy items from Cabelas - my favorite store of all time and they have excellent service.

One thing that would make my life complete is if we got the State Capital moved to the Valley, and thanks to a legislative act, Cabelas moved in- not in Anchorage, but Wasilla right next door to Sportsman's. They'd have a great view of the mountains and the lake. What are they waiting for?

Have a great night guys!

Tim
 
California has issues with the water drawn from its rivers and deltas, Oregon and Washington have issues with hydro management, all three states have issues with Ag and growth. The lower states, Canada and Alaska all have issues with what we dump into the water and logging practices that silt in streams and cause flooding. Food supply issues and ocean water temp issues have had and continue to have a substantial effect on the fishery. All could do a better job of managing wild and hatchery stocks.
For over 20 years though, the lower Western states and BC have tried to work the complex issues with Alaska and Alaska has undermined the process. Alaska "manages" salmon in Alaska waters as though they are Alaska stock fish. WA and OR and some CA salmon head north into Canadian and Alaskan waters. BC fish, which include those which swim down stream through the Alaska panhandle on their way to the ocean, head north where they are overharvested. As a result, BC overharvested WA and OR fish for years, off their coast. This achieved some balance between the two nations but had a devastating effect on native runs from CA, WA and OR. Even now when BC is managing with the lower states native stocks in mind, Alaska is still not at the table.
If we do not all work together and perhaps even if we do, some day the fish will be all but gone.
 
Almas Only":1ap9gewl said:
Now, for the return. Virtually every product at West Marine comes with a manufacturer’s warranty. If you’re interested in the term of that warranty, check the catalog. If there’s any problem during the warranty period, bring the item back, with your receipt. If it’s more than 30 days since the purchase, your best bet is to replace with a new unit, or to offer to take a gift card back for full amount paid. The credit will include sales tax, and should also include shipping for which you were charged, but which West Marine didn’t actually pay. You might or might not be successful on the shipping, but that’s not a big deal.

But, this is where the return process gets interesting. Read the West Marine “No Hassle Guarantee”, and try to figure out what it means. Here’s what it says:

“Satisfaction Guaranteed: We’ve had the same “No Hassle Guarantee” from our very first day in business. If you are ever dissatisfied with any purchase you make from us, simply return it. We’ll replace the item or issue a company credit for the items you return. We want you to have complete peace of mind on every purchase you make from West Marine."

Store managers hate the No Hassle Guarantee, because what it means in practice is that merchandise that is within, or outside, the manufacturer’s warranty period is taken back, full or near-full credit given the customer, and the item is then hit a few times with a hammer, painted yellow, and thrown in the dumpster. The bolder customers simply say “I’m not satisfied with this”, while those with more discretion say “my friends say there’s static whenever I try to transmit, and sometimes it won’t transmit at all.” Most of these customers are telling the truth.

Some store managers, and a few sales associates who are trying to save the company from itself, will try to tell you that once the manufacturer’s warranty has expired, you’re out of luck. Others will tell you that during the warranty period, your only recourse is through the manufacturer. But, few will resist a customer who says “The company has a no hassle guarantee policy, and I want another unit (or, a credit for the purchase price), and if I can’t get it here, I’m going to call corporate and ask why store #___ won’t honor the guarantee published over the signature of Randy Repass.” If all else fails, stop by another West Marine store in your later travels. You’ll have no trouble finding one more cooperative.

This Guarantee is a real reason for shopping at West Marine. They make up for it’s cost with sales of other items. It’s in their best interest, and yours.

I must have encountered one of the "few sales associates who are trying to save the company from itself" today. I have a Marinco bag (for storing shorepower) that I bought 2 years ago which developed a split in the side. The sales associate I dealt with would not take it back, saying that if she did that would mean that anyone could bring something back after years of use, blah blah blah.

I will try at another store as per your suggestion.

Warren
 
WM matched the Fore and Aft Marine price on the Fulton 2,500 lb tongue jack, without shipping - just sales tax. Not a big deal but saved $20 - if they HAD charged shipping, probably would have been no savings at all. In that case, only advantage would have been not having to wait for it. Some value to that I guess.
 
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