Overnighting on CD16 Angler for Two

Pat, you have way more room on that 16 than we did on the M-15 and we spent a week at a time on that. Did not anchor out over night very often though. Sure like your idea of the air bed. :thup

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
does anyone know if 1 person could sleep in the 16 angler cuddy cabin from port to starboard sideways for 1 ? how big is the cuddy cabin what are the dimensions thanks
 
I will have to measure, but sitting in them, they are high enough for a good view out the windshielf of the 16. It would be easy add another inch or so though, as I screwed a piece of marine plywood to the bottom of the seat and then attached the stands to the plywood - another layer of plywood or two would get it up however high it needs to be - we have short legs!
C-Otter":2dx43k6i said:
Pat: Are the seats in the sixteen high enough to see good out the windows? Could you post the height as it is not listed on the web-site. I need a second forward facing seat for my Classic. Thank You, C-Otter.
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Sure, if you are four feet tall! :lol: Seriously, I do not think this would work, but hey, give it a try! I will measure the width, but the opening to the cuddy is pretty tight for a normal size person to even get into and out of - it really is a reach-in storage area.

Now, open 'er up and put a sleeping platform from front to back to about the end of the cabin, get some Sunbrella covered cushions, that would be the cat's meow. The platform would have to be a two piece so the back part could slide back in over the front part to put the the passenger seat back in place for cruising, and it would need removable support legs, but this is definitely do-able. At least Oldgrowth could do it...
jennykatz":1jqb13ii said:
does anyone know if 1 person could sleep in the 16 angler cuddy cabin from port to starboard sideways for 1 ? how big is the cuddy cabin what are the dimensions thanks
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OK, just back from Jarrell Cove - all the theories put to the test! Bottom line, it all worked perfectly, except for the stupid airbed that was seriously deflated about 4:00 a.m.! Pumped 'er up again and we were good until morning...have to fix this puppy or get another one (REI instead of Target maybe, hint, hint). Two CAN sleep comfortably on a 16 Angler! The Mr. Buddy Heater was great, a bit of shuffling of this and that at bed time, the Travasak is great - and the Little Red Bucket was indispensible, I think more important than the Porta-Potti, but when I suggested we might be able to leave the Porta-Potti behind, that did not get a favorable response! The Cabela's seat stands are very stable, this is what makes it all work, to be able to get the seats out of the way of your heads! I am looking forward to the NEXT overnighter on the 16 Angler already!
 
Thanks for the report (ON on the CD 16) We have been waiting for you would post that. Now when we pull the cover off Loose Nut , we will try the cuddy berth on for size, and if that is workable will start to accumulate an "overnight kit".

Thanks again for the tips and the results
 
As the berth on the CD 19 is the same as the CD 22 there should be no difference in bunking there than on the 22. The length of the boat is lost in the cabin aft of the seats and cockpit.

Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV
 
I thought I would post this question under this thread because it seems fitting but has anyone tried cutting out the console area on the angler and adding a bed section similar to the cruiser?
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HERE'S THE COMPARISON:

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So, David cut the bulkhead out on our CD16, so it looks pretty much like the picture above, EXCEPT, we removed the fixed seats. So now, imagine this...a platform for a sleeping pad that extends into the cuddy and has a removable section that extends out where the seats normally are, with two short legs with rubber feet on the aft portion...maybe we cut a bit more of the bulkhead out below the steering wheel for just a tad more width. This is an idea that has been kicking around in the back of my brain ever since we modified the bulkhead.

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That is pretty much exactly what I want to do. how did you cut the bulk head? Also how did you build the platform to sleep on?
 
Doesn't cutting that much out of the bulkhead, increase the flexibility of the hull, deck, cabin (front windows) or something? Sure looks like it would, but that is just my guess from looking at the photos.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
hardee":2cedo11m said:
Doesn't cutting that much out of the bulkhead, increase the flexibility of the hull, deck, cabin (front windows) or something? Sure looks like it would, but that is just my guess from looking at the photos.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
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Harvey-

You'd think it would weaken it, at first thought.

But if you look at that bulkhead more closely, you can see that it's only held by a total of two screws on either side at the bottom, and not attached at all to the sides of the hull.

I can't tell how it's attached at the front, but it looks to be a separately produced/molded piece that is added later. and again is probably only screwed in at the front.

If they wanted to make it a structural piece, they would have glassed it in at all three sides, plus laterally along the outside contact with the gunnel.

So I don't think it's structurally very important.

Plus the fact that that bulkhead is only a few feet back from the bow, and 1) the prisimatic/triangular structure, and 2) the small size of the hull at that point would make it very stiff without the bulkhead.

Maybe someone (Dave) can ask Ben Toland to get a final word answer.

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
Joe,

Thanks for the explanation, it must be a case of an optical illusion. I know you are right. My 22 Cruiser is not attached at the sides, but I'm still not ready to cut mine out there yet.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
A. The sleeping platform is not constructed, it is just an idea kicking around in my head.

2. Cutting the top part of the bulkhead out has no effect on rigidity, as it was not attached to anything. Look at the photo of the top part on the helm side, starboard, and you can no doubt see what I mean. I would not remove the bottom part that is apparently glassed to the sole. The sleeping platform would be at the level of the top of the bottom part.
 
trying to understand here? is something wrong with daydream? why chop up a small boat to make it bigger if you have a bigger boat?
martin
 
So far I've done up to 4 nights solo on my 19. I've also done the same with a friend (male). In this case we take a camp cot and set it up down the centerline or put a tent up on the beach. I've made changes to the seat pedistals to provide table space and some storage.
This summer will be the real test both of the boat and my new 1st mate.We'll see if I'm looking for a bigger boat or a new mate.Though if we survive this we'll survive anything.
One thing I found with air mattresses is that if they are on a cold surface the cold comes right through.
 
Nothing is wrong with Daydream! But I do enjoy Crabby Lou, call me silly (OK, you're silly), overnighting on Crabby Lou is just an idea I really like too...little boat, easier to launch and retrieve, handles great, more economical. Won't take 'er to Alaska, but we have had a couple of great overnighters at Jarrell's Cove and Langley. Like Everest, because it is there...

Dory-Ling":2gwjk16x said:
trying to understand here? is something wrong with daydream? why chop up a small boat to make it bigger if you have a bigger boat?
martin
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