New Marinaut Finally Home
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potter water
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Lots of pix of the two. Just go to the albums that are highlighted in blue in the left hand column of the poster. An individual preference for proportion between hull length and height and cabin length and height is just that, preference. There is no right or wrong answer, just preference.
Thanks again everyone for the comments. Our boat took seven months from the time I wrote the deposit check to picking her up. At the time I ordered the boat, Les was finishing up one boat and there was one or two in front of us. We have been enjoying the boat this winter, mainly just on the Columbia River. Sure nice to have heat!!!
potter water":234xigto said:
I agree with you that personal preference is key to just about any aesthetic decision we make in life, but to characterize the Marinaut as having "odd" proportions is way off base, in my opinion, and does not reflect the flattering opinions we receive from others wherever we go with her. It bewilders me that you could make such a judgement without having been on one. I have been in a CD 22 and Cape Cruiser 23, as well as owning our Marinaut, and their proportions are all very similar. The Marinaut's walls go straight up and do not slant in like the 22, so it "feels" like there is more space in her. These people also love that round window as we do. For those of you who want to see what a Marinaut interior looks like, I have ample photos in my folders and sub-folders. As for all three boats I mentioned, they are all equally beautiful boats, and not one of them is odd.
Rich
Let me put my previous comment a better way. I'm sure there are those who don't think Cindy Crawford is beautiful, because of her beauty mark. These people are entitled to their opinion, even though they are in a very small subset of our population, but if they do express that opinion in a public forum, they should not be surprised to receive negative feedback. The beauty mark on Cindy Crawford's face is analogous to the round window on our beautiful Marinaut.
Rich
Rich
potter water
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Okay, well, I've been chastised, I'll get on board with everyone else, the Marinaut is the loveliest most perfectly proportioned boat I've ever seen, and I should have bought one of them instead of my Dory and I think I'll go cut a round window in my boat just so's not to be misunderstood again.
It is strange that though I went on about personal preferences ruling and expressing and understanding the joy of the new owner and commenting on what I understand is the superior sea keeping of the Marinaut that I didn't realize that to express a personal preference on proportion and appearance was taboo.
From now on, to me, all other boats are just as lovely as all other boats. Next time I buy one, I'll just put 20 boats on a dart board and let fly and take which ever one is on the pix.
Sorry for the rant. It's the cancer drugs that make me grumpy.
It is strange that though I went on about personal preferences ruling and expressing and understanding the joy of the new owner and commenting on what I understand is the superior sea keeping of the Marinaut that I didn't realize that to express a personal preference on proportion and appearance was taboo.
From now on, to me, all other boats are just as lovely as all other boats. Next time I buy one, I'll just put 20 boats on a dart board and let fly and take which ever one is on the pix.
Sorry for the rant. It's the cancer drugs that make me grumpy.
potter water
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In my view, I need to like looking at the things that I buy. Its all about the robustness and aesthetics of design and aesthetics are always in the eye of the beholder. Its all very subjective to personal likes when you are comparing a C-Dory to a Marinaut or any other boat in that class.
In my personal view of boat aesthetics, the C-Dory is the winner of all boats in that class. No contest. Others will view it differently. Now, if I'm going to get really comfortable for the great loop, I'll be looking at a Ranger tug or something of that type. Probably not C-cory, even a 25 or Tomcat. Ranger tug has just the right look for its class of boat...to my eye.
In any case, I'm sure the new Marinaut owner is going to have a ball. Nothing more fun than that new boat smell and feel; I guess anyway, cuz I've never been able to afford the new boat smell myself.
In my personal view of boat aesthetics, the C-Dory is the winner of all boats in that class. No contest. Others will view it differently. Now, if I'm going to get really comfortable for the great loop, I'll be looking at a Ranger tug or something of that type. Probably not C-cory, even a 25 or Tomcat. Ranger tug has just the right look for its class of boat...to my eye.
In any case, I'm sure the new Marinaut owner is going to have a ball. Nothing more fun than that new boat smell and feel; I guess anyway, cuz I've never been able to afford the new boat smell myself.
potter water":2ax97k3f said:
If you think the CD 22 is a nicer looking boat, I won't argue with you. When we were in Washington, we saw G-Nome, and she was simply beautiful as she came into Friday Harbor. Aesthetically, I think the way she was outfitted, she had an edge over other boats including our Marinaut. But to call the Marinaut odd gets my hackles up, because by any measure of reasonableness, it is a comment not reflective of the majority. Truth be known, we did not choose the Marinaut exclusively for her looks, because that was secondary. Why else would we put on a different colored kicker? We chose the Marinaut, because of well documented reasons on this web site that I will not rehash. So while we chose her for function, space, efficiency and safety, we are absolutely delighted that she is a beautiful boat that belongs along side her cousins.
On a more somber tone, I'm very sorry to hear you are having health issues and hope you get better soon to enjoy many more years of boating. While we disagree about a few things from time to time, I want you to understand it is not personal. I wish you all the best!
Rich
potter water
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Best wishes and enjoy the new boat.
I'm probably not gonna score any points here, but I also find the exterior cabin configuration and proportions of the Marinaut a bit odd. To me, the rectangular side window is too large without enough of a fiberglass margin to properly define it, and the round window strikes me as random for lack of better description. I have no doubts, however, about its build quality or the quality of its builders. The beauty of its quality will shine through for the owner with every use. Fact is, very few boats "nail it" in the looks department like the C-Dory 22's and 16 Angler. I just took delivery of a new boat that many would find odd looking, if not outright ugly: a Stabicraft 2050 supercab. But in sea trials this weekend, as I blasted over 1-2' chop at 30MPH in complete comfort, and was able to maintain almost 5MPG at 24MPH over the same waters (per NMEA), my purchase decision was absolutely confirmed IN MY MIND. I don't care what other people think it looks like; its seakeeping is suberb and I love it! Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. Cheers, Mike.
I thought the proportions of the Marinaut looked a little unusual too, from the pictures that I had seen. Then I saw the boat in person at EQ and thought it was a great looking boat, with a lot of personality.
For some reason, the boat doesn't seem to come out as good looking in photos as it does in person.
Lyle
For some reason, the boat doesn't seem to come out as good looking in photos as it does in person.
Lyle
westward":il4kk1qz said:
No insult intended, but you are in a very small minority of people who think that way, and I think that the issue is that you have never seen a Marinaut first hand. Pictures fail to do her justice. If you see a Marinaut up close, enter her cabin and sit in the dinette in front of that round window, you may think differently. The most common comment we receive is, "what a cute boat!" Now, I've mentioned this in the past, and many people have stated they would not want a boat that others would find cute. Woman really dig the Marinaut, which is a particularly good thing. My wife does not like camping or the outdoors, preferring hotels, and recently large cruise ships. But she spends up to 21 overnights per year on our Marinaut. So to those of you who want to get your wives to go cruising with you, if she likes the boat, whether it is a C-Dory or a Marinaut, and she thinks its cute, get it!
Rich
Bess-C":3vecjh9c said:
Our posts crossed in the mail, Lyle, but I thoroughly agree with you. I've tried panoramic pictures and even movies, but all fail miserably at conveying the feeling of seeing the boat first hand. It's frustrating, but then again, when we take a two-dimensional photo of a person, no matter how good the photo, we can't capture a person's soul -- that presence we feel when we look into the eyes of another person. Perhaps, the same is true for the Marinaut. To see her soul, we need to see her in person.
Rich
Rich
Jake":3ajcvy54 said:The bigger the window the better for me. I like to see the sea.Not a fan of skinny "jail" windows.
That is a very good reason why we love the windows. The other thing is that I have a large frame, so when I pull a 24 foot OAL boat into a dock, it is easy for me to lean out the window to grab and then tie off to a cleat. The windows are tinted and have screens, so this promotes better air circulation over smaller windows. My wife Betty sits in the dinette in front of that round window. She likes it because it feels cozy in that corner with the round window, and it makes one feel that one is not on display.
Rich
chromer":1jvoykwc said:
Other than the distinctive round windows, sharp deadrise at the bow tapering into 3 degrees of deadrise at the stern, no lapstrakes, fully enclosed space between the hull and welded-into-the-hull floor pan, saddle fuel tanks, open berth, Mascoat Delta-T insulation in the cabin, closed cell foam coring throughout the boat, large windows and deep splashwell with lots of storage beneath it, the Marinaut could be accused of copying a C-Dory. Thank God it has those features, or else the manufacturer and designers could have had copycat lawsuits on their hands! :lol:
Also,
1. I think the black "frames" on the tinted side windows of the Marinaut make the windows appear even larger compared to a white frame.
2. I don't think any boat maker has a patent on the pilothouse style boat.
3. Personal preference. I'm not looking for a hard core fishing boat which looks like it can handle 8 foot seas. So the smooth lines and curves of the Marinaut are more to my liking. But I do prefer the square over round window if just for added light and visibility. I would also add a couple of hatches in the cabin roof.
4. I realize I'm in the minority of what people are looking for on this site.
1. I think the black "frames" on the tinted side windows of the Marinaut make the windows appear even larger compared to a white frame.
2. I don't think any boat maker has a patent on the pilothouse style boat.
3. Personal preference. I'm not looking for a hard core fishing boat which looks like it can handle 8 foot seas. So the smooth lines and curves of the Marinaut are more to my liking. But I do prefer the square over round window if just for added light and visibility. I would also add a couple of hatches in the cabin roof.
4. I realize I'm in the minority of what people are looking for on this site.
redbaronace
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I like the look of the Marinaut especially this one with the grey hull. Bigger windows are in my opinion better for light and visibility.
Can someone tell me how the cockpit size varies between a 22' Cruiser and the 23' Marinaut
Can someone tell me how the cockpit size varies between a 22' Cruiser and the 23' Marinaut