Thanks Rob and Dave taking a trip up there this week to look at marinas,will check those. Just got back from a trip to Elk country in PA, friends we met at Erie invited us up to their land was nice saw Bull Elk chasing cows ,first time seeing them up close. A lot of Big Mtns in that area,bennezette and Hicks run area. No cell service or tv ,just camping by a creek,was nice not being connected to technology a few days. Then on way back looked at marinas on Seneca Lake. This week will go up to Syracuse area look at marinas on Ontario,and Onieda,probablly camp a night at Thousand Islands area ,then head over to Niagra Falls ,Four mile state park Olcott area,and check the suggested marinas you guys mentioned on the way. Want to find next years boating area now instead of waiting till spring,easier to get a slip. Wife will be sending out her resume soon so last chance to travel and camp . She expects to be working this winter and next boating season,so we need to find something driveable for weekends next season.