I'm feeling better!

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South of Heaven

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I'm feeling better because I finally ran the motor for about 10 minutes or so!

As some of you may recall I bought this boat basically sight unseen. I drove down to NY, bought it and drove home. Lol. No sea trial, no survey, no anything! SO, needless to say I've been waiting for this day for A LONG TIME.

I had a mobile mechanic come and do a complete spring commissioning, tune up and some other engine related things. Going forward I'll be doing all the minor maintenance on the motor but I had a big laundry list today and didn't even wanna attempt some of the tasks.

I have a 2003 Yamaha F80, 4 stroke, carb'd motor.

What we did was: Changed the engine oil and filter, changed the lower unit oil, replaced the internal fuel filter and the external Racor, replaced the water pump and the housing (entire kit), changed all 4 spark plugs, replaced the anode from the skeg area and the long strip anode from near the base of motor mount area.

Then we drained both of the fuel tanks and I added 4 gallons of fresh 93 Octane in each tank (I had to go to the gas station twice and fill up my only "clean" jug). I then stabilized the fuel and added Yamaha Ring-Free additive as well.

Moment of truth time....we connected the muffs and I started the motor. It turned over but no ignition. I then cranked it for like 3 or 4 seconds. Still nothing. The next attempt it fired but was sluggish. Then it warmed up.....I was getting nervous because no water was coming from the telltale and it had been running for like 20 seconds or so. The mechanic then fiddled around with the muffs and got a better connection and a little water came out. He kept fiddling with the muffs and eventually it was a steady stream. I'm still upset though because for a good 20 seconds or more there was no water at all.....

But anyway, after about 1 or 2 minutes of a warmup she ran great and sounded great! Even the warmup sound didn't sound bad; Just warming up, hard to describe it I guess. I chock it up to a motor that has been sitting all winter. I do however wish I had checked the compression. I forgot to ask the mechanic to do it.

I actually have another part that I'm gonna install this week, the thermostat. The dealer didn't have it in stock and PROMISED it to me by last Friday. Then Friday came along and they said "oh, you'll have it by Monday". Gee, thanks. I needed it today.

Alls well that ends well. I'm just happy my engine started. LOL! Next up is actually getting her in the water. I've got a while before that happens though. My next step is a new 24 group starting battery and a 27 deep cycle with a switch and combiner.
Then it's on to the VHF radio, bluetooth radio, speakers, LED lights, VHF antenna, detailing the exterior and interior, tinting the windows, attaching the new boat name and C Dory decals and then prepping the floor for the PlasDeck faux teak. I can't wait to get the product; it's already been measured and ordered.
 
OH YA, another 19!! I just love 19s!! I pretty much did the same! Basically bought at first sight & have been in love since!! Congratulations, you certainly won't regret your choice of a 19! It's a great little boat! I fish...don't camp..perfect! Enjoy my friend. Don't hesitate to post your concerns & desires! This has been a great source of info in all aspects of c-dory ownership! Welcome!!
 
nordicstallion":306wj17e said:
OH YA, another 19!! I just love 19s!! I pretty much did the same! Basically bought at first sight & have been in love since!! Congratulations, you certainly won't regret your choice of a 19! It's a great little boat! I fish...don't camp..perfect! Enjoy my friend. Don't hesitate to post your concerns & desires! This has been a great source of info in all aspects of c-dory ownership! Welcome!!
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Yeah, I like your attitude Nordic! I haven't even been on the water yet and I'm already in love with my 19. The funny thing is that I'm NOT a fisher but I think it'll be great for camping. Kinda the opposite of you!
 
Why don't you just get 2/ 27 batteries or 2/ 24 series batteries .I don't like 2 dissimilar batteries.Make sure you change your internal zincs there should be 3 on your engine . Good Luck with the boat
 
Glad you are feeling better. Many illnesses in this world could be fixed if folks just spent more time on and contemplating the water, be it ocean, lakes or rivers.

AND plus 1 on the having 2 of the same batteries.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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On the batteries, to me it kind of depends on what you like as an overall "philosophy" of how you want to run things. If you are going to have two batteries that are both either/or start and house batteries that you use interchangeably ("day boat" style system; use the banks in alternating fashion), then I'd say make them both the same. My boat came with that style system, with two Group 24 batteries in the starboard lazarette. I changed it to a cruiser style system because that's what I like and what I'm used to.

If you do like to run more of a "cruiser" style system (dedicated smaller start battery and dedicated larger house battery or battery bank, with options for combining in emergencies), then I'd say make them different sizes, but maybe even more different (like maybe a Group 31 house battery, and whatever is the smallest properly sized starting battery you can run). But again, a lot depends on how you like to use the system, what charging methods you plan to use, how you like to have your switches, etc. A 24 and a 27 do seem just a bit too close to be a cruiser style system, but not matched for a "day boat" style system. Kind of neither/nor. They would work though.
 
Thanks for the link although it just reminds me of my confused state of mind when it comes to electrical systems. I believe they talk of auto combining the batteries until voltage drops to a certain level. Makes sense but how does the ACR interact with your battery switch. Does your switch override the ACR if you prefer not to combine at all? Seems like the ACR is in control.
 
Jake":250v8hwy said:
Thanks for the link although it just reminds me of my confused state of mind when it comes to electrical systems. I believe they talk of auto combining the batteries until voltage drops to a certain level. Makes sense but how does the ACR interact with your battery switch. Does your switch override the ACR if you prefer not to combine at all? Seems like the ACR is in control.
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I'm still confused about it myself and I haven't used it yet to experiment either. I'm not even sure if the Blue Sea link I posted was the exact model but I think it is. I'll go back to boat and get the exact model numbers of the switch and the Blue Sea unit.
 
I think it's a great product but would still like to be clear on how it works. In the video, the guy from West Marine says it charges both batteries and then isolates the two during discharge while the Blue Seas guy says the two batteries stay combined during discharge until they reach 12.7 volts and then they isolate. Isn't 12.7 volts kind of low?
 
It's basically a relay. It's been awhile since I was reading all the specs (I've had a Blue Sea one for a few years on the boat), but basically it opens when it senses 12.76 volts (or at least that's when mine does). So at that point the batteries are separated and the start battery can no longer be affected by your house draws (so you can't kill it and then not have a way to get started to get home). Then when it senses a higher voltage (forget exactly what that is, 13.x which is basically reflecting that there is charging happening), it closes and combines the banks, so now the house bank can receive charging from the engine/start battery. This can all be done with manual switches, but the ACR does it automatically.

There is also optional wiring that can delay a combine such that your instruments (on the house bank) don't see any surges from the starting process on the start bank. With a larger house bank any surges are probably muted anyway, even without that feature in use.

Someone who is more expert at it may come along and correct me or just explain it better, but I think this is the gist.

Sunbeam

PS: Blue Sea does also have ACR models that you can manually override or lock out with a small switch (eg Blue Sea 7622). These are larger than what we typically need on boats such as the 22, but they do provide that extra capability.
 
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