Alyssa Jean
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I am in agreement with Pat on Daydream on the capacity of the "20 gal" tanks on the newer 22's. I can put in about 22.5 gal in each after I have run them dry.
I'd Like Bigger Tanks
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Well, I think you would then have trouble getting the last few gallons in the tank when you filled up.
Here's a plan I had for the TyBoo22 before a couple of doomsdayers convinced me I needed more capacity to make it to Bonneville Dam. If you make a rigid platform (one for each tank) to put the tank on, and set the outboard end right on the floor and the inboard end on an appropriately sized shim block to make it level, you would eliminate all the little problems. You would even have the added benefit of being able to rinse off the floor beneath the tanks. Depending upon how stout the platform material is, a shim block in the center of each platform is an option. My plan was to use 3/8" polycarbonate sheeting (Lexan type stuff), which would have been stiff enough to bear the weight and would last as long as the boat.
That being said, however, I still think the tank upgrade (even a pair of 20 gallon jobs) is well worth the expense.
I know several folks have put these gizmos on, but I never saw a need for them. And the TyBoo22 got slapped by some pretty good water, too
Not me. However, I am surprised that you haven't snatched up some kind of portable tank already to get you back in business until the real stuff gets here. You could always use it for the times you want to carry extra fuel.
The pickups in the 18 gallon tanks I had were rigid tubes sticking straight down to near the bottom, with screens on the ends. However, the new tanks came with suction hoses that were longer than the tank is deep, and just layed on the bottom. I reckon you could do that with the pickups on the 18's and get away with it, but something about the idea has always bugged me.
Naw, oil or grease will stay for a long time and make the hoses more apt to get pulled off. The best way is to spit on 'em. That makes it slippery enough to get assembled, but goes away quickly. Having been without your boat for so long, you'll probably be mad enough to spit pretty good by the time you get it back together.
So, then--today I get a call from Jill at C-Dory. My tanks are shipping today, by ground, and should be here by Easter Monday, at the latest. Yay! Stay tooned. 
In other news, I'm still ruminating about putting p-traps in at the fuel vents, but haven't yet done so. Any strong opinions as yet unexpressed out there? And finally--Party on the Potomac is getting put together, for the weekend of June 18-19 or thereabouts. Still plenty of time for any of the Pacific Rimshot folks to get here. C'mon down! Make sure you stop for pasties in Montana on the way. Avoid the burritos in mid-Kansas. The coffee improves again east of the Appalachians, after 2000 miles of caffeine wasteland, at least in my experience. Best wishes, Bruce H.
In other news, I'm still ruminating about putting p-traps in at the fuel vents, but haven't yet done so. Any strong opinions as yet unexpressed out there? And finally--Party on the Potomac is getting put together, for the weekend of June 18-19 or thereabouts. Still plenty of time for any of the Pacific Rimshot folks to get here. C'mon down! Make sure you stop for pasties in Montana on the way. Avoid the burritos in mid-Kansas. The coffee improves again east of the Appalachians, after 2000 miles of caffeine wasteland, at least in my experience. Best wishes, Bruce H.Just what do you mean when you say pasties in Montana? Love to go but I don't know if I could survive the coffee wasteland 
I replaced my tank vents with a set of those plastic jobbies with the check valve....it seems those vents ride just about dock high...plastic is tough but not as tough as the dock, the thing lasted about one week.
I replaced my tank vents with a set of those plastic jobbies with the check valve....it seems those vents ride just about dock high...plastic is tough but not as tough as the dock, the thing lasted about one week.
Captains Cat
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Hey, nuff. We gots Starguts here too. You just gotta have the stomach for it. Come see us, I'll make some of that campfire stuff...
We got 6 for the Potomac River/Ches Bay extravaganza so far and over two months to go!!
Way to go Bearh, get them tanks.
We got 6 for the Potomac River/Ches Bay extravaganza so far and over two months to go!!
Way to go Bearh, get them tanks.
So then, again--
Easter Monday. The good news--my tanks arrived late in the afternoon. Yay! Then, I opened the boxes. Now the rest of the story--I have two tanks, vent and filler hose, clamps, screws, etc--but several pieces mentioned in the instructions (apparently adequate for most people, but they do leave a bit to the imagination, in my reading) like filler hose, aluminum angles, nylon straps, etc. are...not there. Hmm. However, I do have a second large box which contains...someone's burgundy seat cushions.
Imagine my joy.
On to the phone tomorrow. Stay tuned. I hope to second the rave reviews given the factory by many. So far, however...people do have bad days. I guess. Note effort to be understanding and kind. Do left coast customers have different juju, or what?
Easter Monday. The good news--my tanks arrived late in the afternoon. Yay! Then, I opened the boxes. Now the rest of the story--I have two tanks, vent and filler hose, clamps, screws, etc--but several pieces mentioned in the instructions (apparently adequate for most people, but they do leave a bit to the imagination, in my reading) like filler hose, aluminum angles, nylon straps, etc. are...not there. Hmm. However, I do have a second large box which contains...someone's burgundy seat cushions.
Imagine my joy.
On to the phone tomorrow. Stay tuned. I hope to second the rave reviews given the factory by many. So far, however...people do have bad days. I guess. Note effort to be understanding and kind. Do left coast customers have different juju, or what?
Captains Cat
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I bet someone will be more than willing to trade a box of hardware/hoses etc. for those Burgandy cushions! Good luck..
Charlie
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Pat Anderson
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Well, yes, I could sure use a box new Burgundy (Cabernet actually) seat cushions, but unfortunately I don't have a box of hardware for the trade - can we trade for beer? :wink:
Captains Choice":24951ezi said:
...And so, the final parts shipment arrived by next day air, three days later, on Monday of this past week. I dithered for the next several days, assembling tools, reading the (corrected) instructions, and getting ready to drill holes in Snowdon's bottom. Today, (Saturday) turned out to be the big day--and several hours of not-so-difficult-but-new-to-me work later, Snowdon has new tanks, brackets, panels, hoses, etc. all hooked up so they look real official. Next comes the putting of the gas and pumping of the system and starting of the engine, and running of the boat part. Stay tooned.
Did I say I get nervous around plumbing of any sort? Did I say that what is under my transom certainly looks like plumbing to me? And what, exactly is an airlock in the water separator, and what does one do about it if one happens to achieve getting one? Oh, yes--we're not done yet, are we?
As the immortal Hannibal Lector once said: "Allrighty, then--Let's get started, shall we?"
Did I say I get nervous around plumbing of any sort? Did I say that what is under my transom certainly looks like plumbing to me? And what, exactly is an airlock in the water separator, and what does one do about it if one happens to achieve getting one? Oh, yes--we're not done yet, are we?
As the immortal Hannibal Lector once said: "Allrighty, then--Let's get started, shall we?"
The professional answer I can give you, as a social worker with about 29 years of experience, to the grounding of gas tanks, given my recent experience--when I took the old Mueller 18 gallon tanks out, there were ground (white) wires attached (i.e. touching) to the fuel feed outlets, which were metal screw in doohickeys that attached to the tanks. These wires were bundled with a ground wire that also attached to the underside of the fuel fill pipes on the sides of the boat. They then ran to one of the mounting bolts for the engine (I think that's what it was) accessible from the inside of the transom.
What I did, when I took out the tanks, was leave the white wires dangling. Then when I put in my new tanks, which had angled fuel feed connecting nipples already attached to the tanks--and no mention of ground wires, and instructions about same, thankyouverymuch, in the instructions--I simply laid the wire--which had a circle connector on each end which had come off the fuel feed hoses I removed when I took out the old tanks--over the nipples, clamped the fuel feed hoses on the nipples, and plastic-tied the circle connectors to the metal nipples as firmly as I could.
My reasoning is thus--and mind you, I'm a social worker, not an electrician--the tanks are in a relatively open space (this may not matter a whit, if the issue is static electricity and gas fumes); portable tanks are not grounded, so why do these have to be grounded?; and finally--if they weren't mentioned in the instructions, and I don't see white wires in any of the C-Dory website pictures of the tanks in a boat (what I used to fill out my instruction sheet when in doubt)--maybe the factory figures its better without them?
Buck, at the factory, can probably give the definitive answer, but though he's been very responsive and helpful, I feel I've called him enough for a while. Maybe you could call and ask, then post the answer here? Or maybe someone who reads this, and knows even just a little bit more than a rock about the subject could correct my answer and save us both from a fiery and spectacular surprise when we next crank up.
What I did, when I took out the tanks, was leave the white wires dangling. Then when I put in my new tanks, which had angled fuel feed connecting nipples already attached to the tanks--and no mention of ground wires, and instructions about same, thankyouverymuch, in the instructions--I simply laid the wire--which had a circle connector on each end which had come off the fuel feed hoses I removed when I took out the old tanks--over the nipples, clamped the fuel feed hoses on the nipples, and plastic-tied the circle connectors to the metal nipples as firmly as I could.
My reasoning is thus--and mind you, I'm a social worker, not an electrician--the tanks are in a relatively open space (this may not matter a whit, if the issue is static electricity and gas fumes); portable tanks are not grounded, so why do these have to be grounded?; and finally--if they weren't mentioned in the instructions, and I don't see white wires in any of the C-Dory website pictures of the tanks in a boat (what I used to fill out my instruction sheet when in doubt)--maybe the factory figures its better without them?
Buck, at the factory, can probably give the definitive answer, but though he's been very responsive and helpful, I feel I've called him enough for a while. Maybe you could call and ask, then post the answer here? Or maybe someone who reads this, and knows even just a little bit more than a rock about the subject could correct my answer and save us both from a fiery and spectacular surprise when we next crank up.
Bearh":1kljeu4g said:
Hey Bruce,
I just found out whose cushions those were. Thanks for taking such good care of them! They are now resting comfortably in the new Super Sized "Sea Shift". Great to know that at least part of Sea Shift traveled to Annapolis, MD. I personally haven't been back there since the '60's.
Thanks again,
Dave S. :lol:
Did the putting in the gas, pumping the system, and running the boat part at 6 AM on Saturday. Ran twenty miles, including a tour of Annapolis's Ego Alley, to get home before my wife fully woke up. I must be slipping--so far no leaks, no runs, no errors. What a pleasant surprise. Also, apparently no major venting or grounding problems that I can discern--but then again, isn't the first sign of a problem there usually your transom visiting the far shore while your bow breaks a new record on the reciprocal bearing, and you (me ) heading quickly for either the basement or the attic, wheel in hand?
Hi all, I talked to Buck @ C-Dory and was told that 25 gallon tanks would be available by October and that the 20s would probably be discontinued. They'll allow room for a single 6 gallon between them. This will be a 40% increase in fuel capacity for Adeline! An upgrade kit should be pretty close to 400.00 and will include the "Starboard" faces and mounting hardware, but no hoses. I was told that there will be no sending units for my fuel gauge. Has anyone installed sending units in their 20s? Tempo offers one with a maximum depth of 24 inches http://www.tempoproducts.com/2004/gauges.html . I know that the new tanks will be opaque so the fuel level can be seen, but I'd prefer not to leave the helm to check. My fuel gauge has always worked well and the holes are already there (gauge and selector) so I'd like to keep them. Pete