I just HATE drawing welfare. I'd really rather have a job

Hey, Ben.

I hope you weren't referring to me as a pro-Communist. Since you included the spitting reference in the same sentence, it sounded like it. If so, that's seriously not nice, and more importantly, not true. Life isn't black and white. I did intelligence work in the Army (no jokes please, I've heard that one...) and had daily, first-hand exposure to how our government lies to the public. Keeping something secret is one thing; lies are another, particularly when men and women who dedicate themselves to defend this country are used as pawns. Oh, and another thing - I like capitalism and always have; that's why I started my own business. Disagreeing with the government's policy doesn't make one a Communist. That's an easy cop-out label.

I've also fired a number of people who worked for me that were of several colors and economic backgrounds both in government and the private sector. Some just didn't show up regularly or try to do the job; others gave it their all and just didn't have what it took to do the job. I just don't lump the people who tried and lost in with those who expect a free ride.

In regard to my sense of humor, perhaps all those cold winters up in Plentywood did something to my brain. I dunno. Wow, -3 in Bozeman tonight; -23 in Plentywood. Yup, that must have been it. I'll try to laugh a bit more in spite of the labels applied without knowing me.

Stay warm,

Tom
 
Big Bad Ben":11tltaik said:
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OBVIOUSLY was full of BS when he said wished he had a job instead of having to collect welfare.
It's a joke about someone who needs to serve as a BAD example. Those of us who have had the privilege to run private businesses have had to deal with this type of BS'er on many occasion. That's why the dude is unemployed.
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OBVIOUSLY is a matter of opinion and, I would claim is not necessarily based in fact.
See http://www.apa.org/pi/wpo/myths.html for example....
 
"Life isn't black and white. I did intelligence work in the Army (no jokes please, I've heard that one...) and had daily, first-hand exposure to how our government lies to the public. Keeping something secret is one thing; lies are another,
..."

Communist Military intelligence Good.

American Military intelligence Bad.

Communists never lie.

Life in China and North Korea is in fact GREAT!

Peace and God bless to you. Merry Christmas.

rogerbum:
It's a joke - get it? A joke.

I referenced the 4.4% unemployment rate - it's historically low. If someone wants a job they can get a job in todays economy. Not like the 70's with 15.5% mortgages and 9% unemployment.

'nuff said.
 
Well Marty, you got everyone but Kramer....and Therrick and Rogerbum...

Who probably said, something I don't dare repeat or Therrick will get me.... Or Rogerbum....

I had some nifty things made up about what they might have said but I think they could say it better...

Hoo boy... :shock:

charlie
 
"But sir, I thought............" The last time I said that I got is some real trouble. But that's :wink: one for another time. Here's to ya. :lol:
 
Marty - I believe they managed to insult every group of people except one with the chicken jokes, but that is OK, it is hard to get everyone.
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Dave dlt.gif
 
I'm with ya.... One time I raised my right hand and got 32 years in the Navy, the second time I got 41 years of marriage.... I miss the first one and am still living with the second one... So far :shock:

I introduce her as my first wife. She says she's my last one. Said last year I could have a "trophy wife" if I wanted, I said "really?". She said "yes, I'll shoot her and hang her head in the den".... :cry

Don't think I'll go there.... :smilep

Charlie
 
OMG, a marsupial joke.... :shock:

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And there he/she (how does one tell) goes across the road. ... :lol:

Charlie
 
An engineer was crossing a road one day, when a frog called out
to him and said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess."
He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket.
The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me and turn me back
into a beautiful princess, I will stay with you for one week."
The engineer took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it and returned
it to the pocket.
The frog then cried out, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a
Princess, I'll stay with you for one week and do ANYTHING you
want."
Again, the engineer took the frog out, smiled at it and put it back into
his pocket.
Finally, the frog asked, "What is the matter? I've told you I'm a
beautiful princess and that I'll stay with you for one week and do
anything you want. Why won't you kiss me?"
The engineer said, "Look, I'm an engineer. I don't have time for a
girlfriend, but a talking frog, now that's cool."


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Oh heck, don't think you managed to offend anyone but (us) engineers or the frogs with that one....

On the other hand, maybe only the frogs, a talking frog could be really neat.

charlie
 
It's a joke Charlie. I was gonna post the motto of Montana "Big Sky, the Unibomber, and Crazy Right Wing Wackos" but I know how touchy some people are. :peace:
 
For the record, I'm not out to "get" anybody and yes, I recognize that the original post was intended as a joke, nothing more nothing less. However, after the original post there were a number of comments suggesting that the joke was founded in a reality or strongly reflected reality. My comments are simply to indicate that some people's beliefs that are presented as "reality" don't necessarily square with my own beliefs nor with facts one can dig up without too much effort. People are free to not let data get in the way of their pre-conceived ideas - that's the american way....

While we're discussing the wonderfully low unemployment rate, we might also mention that wages at the low end of the spectrum (for example minimum wage) have declined in inflation adjusted $'s since the 1970's, the federal minimum wage hasn't been raised for about 9 years, many formerly high paying industrial jobs have moved overseas and it's more and more difficult for the poorly educated to make a liveable wage.

Now the frog joke, -- THAT I LIKED... :thup
 
Hi Roger my good friend, you are bright enough to know you can find any data on the internet you want to back up your argument. If you look at data supplied by activist groups for the un-employed or homeless, you will find their data is going to be skewed in their favor. If you want to argue for the other side, you find other stats. It’s easy on the internet.

I am going to go out on a limb because I have not checked, but I am willing to bet that if you look at the census data, it will not be the same as the data you linked to. This is based entirely on knowing you and your passion for those that you consider downtrodden. You let your feelings and heart get ahead of your head.

Now lets look at the following statement by you

“it's more and more difficult for the poorly educated to make a livable wage”

Which policy is more likely to help the people you want to in the above quote?

1 Take more money from the producers, those of us working our buts off and give it to the poorly educated and in effect telling those thinking of dropping out of school, “an education is not important because uncle will take care of you, if you fail at life”

or

2 telling them if you drop out of school, you will more than likely fail in life, if you find employment it will probably be at a wage that will not support a family and maybe not even yourself, you may be homeless, you may go hungry and it may be hard to get health care. If you do not have the ambition or will to make it in life, there is no one going to carry you.

You tell me who has more caring for the people you claim to be concerned about? I will argue that it is the latter. I know that sounds harsh and you always have to make exceptions, but 5, 10, 20 million or however many million exceptions you want to use are too many.

In an earlier post I challenged someone to tell me where my thinking was wrong and I will challenge you to do the same. Think about what I said and I quote myself. “You let your feelings and heart get ahead of your head.”
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yet on the other hand the average wage keeps going up, even when you adjust for inflation. but hey what do I know i'm one of the poorly educated living in a nice house with a great boat.

I have one big concern about this whole thing and I only bring it up to help. The original joke never mentioned race and neither did my rant. but several of you with out a funny bone keep bring it up race.

" I've never been comfortable with humor that belittles a class or race of people any more than I like it when an individual abuses the public safety net. "


i have never been fond of jokes that belittle a race. In fact those Type of jokes are not told around me at work with out me getting in their face about it. a so called class on the other hand is something different. Homelessness is not a "class" it is a condition. Black or white or whatever is something you are born with and can not change, no matter what micheal jackson tries. homelessness or middleclass is just your current condition. If you accept it as your class or place in life you will never get any further in life. and when you class some one as homeless you have giving up on them and do not see what they are capable of. I have spent two night on the street and it was enough for me, never again.

like I said earlier I use humor to change peoples behavoir and to stop others from going down that road. As a once single parent I can tell you that its a bad Idea. Some of us by divorce and other by death . but to chose single mother hood, now at a all time high (36% of kids born to single moms) is just dumm. Many hollywood types are out having kids by them selves and making it sound not only ok but hip. we dont think its hip but some under aged girl will. In no way does being a single mom help the kid. no matter the income class of the mother a single parent kid has more likely hood of going to jail, drugs, low grades, dropping out of school etc... so to make fun or other wise "degrade" that behavior is doing more good then harm if it keeps one person from not only screwing up there life but thier future kids.

As for lttle bugs they should be bull whipped in public. And so you dont think i walk the talk, i have handed motorist there trash back to them at the next stop sign more then once.

Sorry if I have gone in to depth here but after reading my earlier post and some of the responses to it I want to clearifiy. I am more vocal with my disapprovel then most but beleive that it is the right thing to do.

p.s. when I see something here on c-brats that I disapprove of I am very vocal, by p.m. or email.

p.s. roger when are we going fishing???
 
I just woke up. What's the score? Did Susan get home yet? There ain't a frog in the bunch. Whoever started this category "That's Life" did a good thing. And then to have a thread with the words "I HATE" in big letters knew how to drain a wound. Maybe it IS just a big joke...then again maybe not. I truly love you guys. Is it true that in Montana if you have a sheep in the bed of your truck you must have a chaperone in the cab? :peace:
 
WOW-- these things take a life of their own, or death- or what ever you prefer. Maybe life is a class and death is the reward?

I have decided that I want to live my next life backwards:

You start out dead and get that out of the way. Then you wake up in an old age home feeling better every day. Then you get kicked out for being too healthy. Enjoy your retirement and collect your pension. Then when you start work, you get a gold watch on your first day. You work 40 years until you're too young to work. You get ready for High School: drink alcohol, party, and you're generally promiscuous. Then you go to primary school, you become a kid, you play, and you have no responsibilities. Then you become a baby, and then... You spend your last 9 months floating peacefully in luxury, in spa-like conditions - central heating, room service on tap, and then... You finish off as an orgasm.


I rest my case.
 
Marty...Now you've gone and insulted a sheep too.... I think...

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Wonder if it's too late to start living backwards....I haven't quite gotten to the home yet...

Charlie
 
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