So, here's my question. If E10 presents such obvious problems, and something like blue Stabil doesn't harm performance, why don't gasoline companies include some kind of fuel stabilizer in the gas? Clearly modern fuels are intensely engineered petro-chemicals with conditioners and detergents included. My view up to now is that high quality gasoline includes all of the conditioners needed to optimize performance for fuel used within a couple of months of purchase -- short of the water issue that the marine environment introduces. Wouldn't this also be true for E10?
Fuel Conditioner... what type??
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The best way to store the E10 crap is to run it through the engine before storing...
Lacking that, then make sure your tank is kept full to reduce condensation... Fill your tanks at the end of the weekend and when storing at the end of the season...
Top off the tank with high octane when storing - which contains more actual gasoline and less fillers than 83 octane...
Aviation 100 LL, has excellent storage qualities and is high in aliphatic's that make it a good stabilizer... It does contain lead so it is not friendly to oxygen sensors... Though in small quantities as an end of season stabilizer the lead will be diluted enough to minimize this issue...
80 octane aviation gas without lead is slowly becoming available, though not widely... It would make an excellent end of season fill up...
Non ethanol gas can be had from the fuel distributors, but you have to haul a tank to them for filling... Some of the airplane owners on my field do this...
Use a water rejecting funnel to filter the gas when you fuel up all season long - the West marine WM-F8C works very well... You are gonna be surprised once in while when the funnel rejects some gas...
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Think carefully about using stabilizers that are simply more alcohol...
Lacking that, then make sure your tank is kept full to reduce condensation... Fill your tanks at the end of the weekend and when storing at the end of the season...
Top off the tank with high octane when storing - which contains more actual gasoline and less fillers than 83 octane...
Aviation 100 LL, has excellent storage qualities and is high in aliphatic's that make it a good stabilizer... It does contain lead so it is not friendly to oxygen sensors... Though in small quantities as an end of season stabilizer the lead will be diluted enough to minimize this issue...
80 octane aviation gas without lead is slowly becoming available, though not widely... It would make an excellent end of season fill up...
Non ethanol gas can be had from the fuel distributors, but you have to haul a tank to them for filling... Some of the airplane owners on my field do this...
Use a water rejecting funnel to filter the gas when you fuel up all season long - the West marine WM-F8C works very well... You are gonna be surprised once in while when the funnel rejects some gas...
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Think carefully about using stabilizers that are simply more alcohol...
AstoriaDave
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Year and a half of consistent running with no issues, exclusively using Oregon's E-10, adding stabilizer per recs on the container; first the red stabilizer, and now the blue the last month. Never attempt to fill tanks prior to long storage. They sit half full in an unheated shed, for a couple months at a time, minimum, here on the coast of Oregon, where we got about 6-7 feet of rain last year.
Perhaps the principal difference is that my tanks are metal: all aluminum.
Two years ago, when the engine was laid up during construction of the boat after an initial test run, I allowed the first load of fuel in the engine to EVAPORATE to dryness, and had added NO stabilizer: result: EVERY filter was gummed to the useless state and had to be replaced
My conclusion is that if you use stabilizer with every fill, E-10 is a non-issue except for the power loss.
Perhaps the principal difference is that my tanks are metal: all aluminum.
Two years ago, when the engine was laid up during construction of the boat after an initial test run, I allowed the first load of fuel in the engine to EVAPORATE to dryness, and had added NO stabilizer: result: EVERY filter was gummed to the useless state and had to be replaced
My conclusion is that if you use stabilizer with every fill, E-10 is a non-issue except for the power loss.
Captains Cat
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Don't you wish you had one of these in your neighborhood!! :lol:
Big line of trailer boats on the weekends! It's in Reedville, VA about 20 minutes away. I have 20gal worth of 5 gal tanks and I fill them up whenever I can and refuel the TC! $2.40 a gallon right now.
Charlie
Big line of trailer boats on the weekends! It's in Reedville, VA about 20 minutes away. I have 20gal worth of 5 gal tanks and I fill them up whenever I can and refuel the TC! $2.40 a gallon right now.
Charlie
Matt Gurnsey
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Port of Bremerton is buying non ethonal fuel for the Port Orchard Marina Fuel Dock. It's being trucked up from Texas as an off road use fuel.