Canadian Border To Remain Closed
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gulfcoast john":224in1on said:
John, You are making so much good sense :thup :thup
I don't mind a bit of banter, but I doubt that the virus has political connections, although there are political consequences and I much prefer boating subjects. Yes, I wish that border was open, I would have been way north long ago. Instead I am staying home, out of trouble and hoping to remain healthy even though the virus spread is climbing nation wide.
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KevinDU":307uowkk said:
Seems like a perfectly edited version of Trumps rally by a socialist media outlet but never the less could you imagine how many more would be dead if Biden was in office ?
I bet he would just now be figuring out that we have a problem and should shut down the boarders...... but......nobody’s perfect.
Why do you care so much about American Politics anyway? Just pulling the strings I suppose :lol: stay safe in Canada Kevin.
Sorry to get phished into politics when I just posted earlier about keeping it boat related but some seem ok with Political (light) :beer
Fish on!
bobjarrard
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C-BRAT family,
-- It is a sign of the times that we go from bilge pump threads to political commentary. I skip the topics of the moment and can only say that the fear we all have, no matter at what level or with what justification, is still fear and we tend to let fear color our thoughts and our thoughts become our words (or in our case here - our typing to text).
-- I turn 73 on the 27th of this month (if you cannot find the TIP JAR on our home page, send me a PM - I will send you my PayPal address and you can give me money as a birthday gift) and I have to admit to more limitations in all ares of my life with each passing day. That alone causes fear. But we know that "perfect knowledge casts out all fear" so that might also be stated this way: "Fear is reduced in whole or part to the extent that we have sound knowledge, more truth than lie!".
-- So here is some truth (I think - I maybe wrong - my wife says I am always wrong):
#1 Canada is a sovereign nation and can set their own laws and rules limited only by international law and convention.
#2 Canadians are suffering in many ways by the limiting of travel and commerce between themselves and the US. It is a two way street.
#3 Aside from their funny accent, Canadians are pretty nice folks.
#4 There appears to be a risk with COVID-19, perhaps more or perhaps less than some folks understand but we all know the risk of allowing politics to rule our lives.
And now, a famous quote that none of remember as to source:
*** "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" arose as part of a quotation by the expansively named and impressively hirsute John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton, first Baron Acton (1834–1902). The historian and moralist, who was otherwise known simply as Lord Acton, expressed this opinion in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton in 1887:
and
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."[/i]
Respectfully and gratefully yours,
Bob Jarrard
-- It is a sign of the times that we go from bilge pump threads to political commentary. I skip the topics of the moment and can only say that the fear we all have, no matter at what level or with what justification, is still fear and we tend to let fear color our thoughts and our thoughts become our words (or in our case here - our typing to text).
-- I turn 73 on the 27th of this month (if you cannot find the TIP JAR on our home page, send me a PM - I will send you my PayPal address and you can give me money as a birthday gift) and I have to admit to more limitations in all ares of my life with each passing day. That alone causes fear. But we know that "perfect knowledge casts out all fear" so that might also be stated this way: "Fear is reduced in whole or part to the extent that we have sound knowledge, more truth than lie!".
-- So here is some truth (I think - I maybe wrong - my wife says I am always wrong):
#1 Canada is a sovereign nation and can set their own laws and rules limited only by international law and convention.
#2 Canadians are suffering in many ways by the limiting of travel and commerce between themselves and the US. It is a two way street.
#3 Aside from their funny accent, Canadians are pretty nice folks.
#4 There appears to be a risk with COVID-19, perhaps more or perhaps less than some folks understand but we all know the risk of allowing politics to rule our lives.
And now, a famous quote that none of remember as to source:
*** "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" arose as part of a quotation by the expansively named and impressively hirsute John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton, first Baron Acton (1834–1902). The historian and moralist, who was otherwise known simply as Lord Acton, expressed this opinion in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton in 1887:
and
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."[/i]
Respectfully and gratefully yours,
Bob Jarrard
colbysmith
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I suspect a helluva lot fewer! Of course it all depends upon regular folks like you and I accepting and following the advice of the experts and scientists. As more and more families are personally affected by this real, not a hoax, pandemic, one of two things will happen. Herd mentality will thin out those that refused or were unable to stay safe. Or folks will wise up and realize wearing a damn mask and/or social distancing for a while will get us thru this mess. In the mean time we can just keep doing what we are doing while our economy and everything else goes to hell. (Or "We just have to learn to live with it", mentality.) I never did care much for group projects.
Ironic that we've become a country locked behind our own borders because of our own action (inaction.) Our Canadian friends are doing the best they can to protect their country. Colby
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bobjarrard":8oagzm5m said:
pardon me?
I always thought were the only english speakers without any accent!
stay safe!
Molly Brown
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Happy Birthday Bob!
Gene&Mary
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Be sure to vote on Nov 3 and make it easier for those that are legally entitled to vote to vote.
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Da Nag":3qrxka1e said:
Yes!! Nobody in their right mind wants to change twice the waterpumps and have twice the oil changes! :lol:
Molly Brown
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Ahhh DaNag!
Nothing gets the juices flowing like the single vs twins debate, and, far more "interesting" than politics :roll: Easy peasy as my daughter says and besides I have no choice in the matter. Our vintage 03 Hondas are coming off as we speak and headed to Trinidad of all places. New shinny Mercs coming soon!!
James
Nothing gets the juices flowing like the single vs twins debate, and, far more "interesting" than politics :roll: Easy peasy as my daughter says and besides I have no choice in the matter. Our vintage 03 Hondas are coming off as we speak and headed to Trinidad of all places. New shinny Mercs coming soon!!
James
bobjarrard":239nhny4 said:
What can I say? I love Canada, its coast (I fish and boat there), inland waters (I had plans for kayaking Bowron Lake in August, now cancelled), and forests (I hunt in Alberta). I love how tolerant Canadians are of us yanks. I miss visiting Canada and having Canadian friends visiting us here. I miss hearing the BC and Albertan accents as well as the beer, food and hospitality.
In case you Puget Sounders are thinking of checking out another great Bay (one reason we have C-Dorys?) instead of heading north this year, you might want to visit the Chesapeake Bay area. Its a lot like here with a few distinct good and bad differences, shallower, warmer, occasional hurricanes, "no-see-ums", softshell crab sandwiches). Also, Canadians aren't the only ones with accents. I grew up on the Bay, and you'll need some tools to navigate the people as well as the water...here are some lessons for speaking Bawlmorese like the locals while plying those waters...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KylF4mZXf1Q
https://www.facebook.com/lovewhatreally ... 873824736/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sTOwxt9wFE
In regard to the political expressions. I've worked in most parts of the world, some a bit difficult, some great, and I thank God every day for what we have here, imperfect as it is. I may not agree with you, but I would do everything I can to make sure you have the right to disagree or anyone else with me openly and safely. A country without open, free and mostly nonviolent dissent isn't one I would like to live in.
Happy cruising wherever you are.
localboy":3cutgekt said:
As a bit of a reality check - Trump didn't close down travel from China - he closed down travel to America of Chinese citizens. All of the infected (and uninfected) Americans were welcome to return with no restrictions and no quarantine. So not only was his travel ban ineffective from a public health perspective it was, as was stated at the time, xenophobic. It didn't, in fact save 1000's of lives as he claimed and it wasn't particularly useful. It may have slightly delayed the number of cases we have here a little. See this post for a reasoned analysis of what actually happened with regard to the travel "ban". We also didn't have any sensible plan for banning travel from Europe and most of the cases in the east coast actually arrived here from Europe (as is evidenced by the analysis of sequence variants of the SARS-CoV2 virus in the US and elsewhere - see this research publication for information on that.)
The US is now reeling from a combination of missteps and inaction that will result in much longer term impact to our boating and economy than would have happened had the US managed the response more like our northern neighbors or any of the large countries in Europe. There are many fine examples of countries that responded aggressively and that now have the virus well in check or at least at manageable levels. The US is not one of those countries. Canada is. Until the US turns things around (which may or may not require a wholesale change of politicians), we can expect the our travel options to remain restricted.
Sheesh - I haven't been watching this thread so I was a little surprised by the tone of things.
What made me go through it now was seeing a post on Facebook from a long time member who said he doesn't frequent this site anymore because of the politics. Imagine - Facebook thinking C-Brats is bad. It might be time to hang it up.
What made me go through it now was seeing a post on Facebook from a long time member who said he doesn't frequent this site anymore because of the politics. Imagine - Facebook thinking C-Brats is bad. It might be time to hang it up.
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