C-Dory Mystery Boats - The C-Ranger Tugs!

Very cool. If I ever get around to upgrading (probably not for at least anither 4 years until the kid gets out of college), this looks better to me than a 25' CD or TC255. At the very least, those thikning of upgrading will have to give this a close look. I can't wait to see it in person. Given the uncertainty over the whether the SBS will be on next Sat., I'll probably go this Sun (tomorrow)..

Roger on the SeaDNA
 
I am guessing by the time it is "nicely equipped" the C-Ranger Tug R 25 will come in at about $40K more than a nicely equipped CD25 Cruiser. The basic boat is $100K with the 80 hp engine, compared to the CD25 at $70K (have not seen this year's Boat Show price of course), so you start out at about $30K more. But the options on the C-Ranger are proportionately more expensive. For example, you WILL want bow and stern thrusters with the single screw inboard, and that is going to cost you $5K. You will probably want a windlass and a Wallas, both of which were standard last year on the CD25 but are options on the C-Ranger - another $4K. The frame and cockpit canvas cost another $1K more than even our rather expensive (but fantastic) Canvas Riggers camperback. And so it goes...but would we love to have this boat? That is a great big "Duh"...this is the PERFECT boat for cruisers like us. I don't know when / how / if it makes economic sense for us, but when was this about making sense, anyway?:lol:

rogerbum":2eb8to3i said:
Very cool. If I ever get around to upgrading (probably not for at least anither 4 years until the kid gets out of college), this looks better to me than a 25' CD or TC255. At the very least, those thikning of upgrading will have to give this a close look. I can't wait to see it in person. Given the uncertainty over the whether the SBS will be on next Sat., I'll probably go this Sun (tomorrow)..

Roger on the SeaDNA
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Pat Anderson":2d04ld0b said:
I am guessing by the time it is "nicely equipped" the C-Ranger Tug R 25 will come in at about $40K more than a nicely equipped CD25 Cruiser. The basic boat is $100K with the 80 hp engine, compared to the CD25 at $70K (have not seen this year's Boat Show price of course), so you start out at about $30K more. But the options on the C-Ranger are proportionately more expensive. For example, you WILL want bow and stern thrusters with the single screw inboard, and that is going to cost you $5K. You will probably want a windlass and a Wallas, both of which were standard last year on the CD25 but are options on the C-Ranger - another $4K. The frame and cockpit canvas cost another $1K more than even our rather expensive (but fantastic) Canvas Riggers camperback. And so it goes...but would we love to have this boat? That is a great big "Duh"...this is the PERFECT boat for cruisers like us. I don't know when / how / if it makes economic sense for us, but when was this about making sense, anyway?:lol:
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I knew it! Just hold off one more season if you can, Pat. Then PM me and we can do some Daydream discussions....! :mrgreen: Best it stays in the Anderson clan....

Don
 
Pat,

We saw the C-Ranger Tugs today, very impressive! Caryn loved them, especially the bigger one. And you're right, the C-Ranger Tug R25 will be much more expensive than the CD-25. Not only that, the 100k base price is only an introductory price. The post-boat show R25's will be much more than that, this coming straight from the horses mouth. Oh well, it's always nice to dream...

Peter
 
OK Pat.... we gotta look at apples to similar apples here.... Now, the last Tug I priced out was the Nordic Tug 32+.... which was then hitting around 250K as I recall.....before the electronics....and you loose the trailerability... So...could ya give up a little fit-n-finish (more than likely.... I have not seen this CR-25) that the NT32+ has.... 220 less hp ( there is a lot of the price differance looking at big ol diesel engines), and of cours....some beam and the 7' of length... So for a TUG.... This will get ya going.

Now, what was the gentlemans name that started the R-21 and the Martini which was also the same "bottom" as the R-21, but had a "day cruiser" top side with rear/center stearing helm, and a U-shaped seating arangement just forward of the helm. ??? As I recall.....those boats were in the 30-35K range back in 2002 time frame. Now I am wondering if I have thrown away the old R-21 and Martini brochures I received in the mail back then.....hummm....

Byrdman
 
Byrdman":2ny8sp9i said:
Now, what was the gentlemans name that started the R-21 and the Martini which was also the same "bottom" as the R-21, but had a "day cruiser" top side with rear/center stearing helm, and a U-shaped seating arangement just forward of the helm.
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According to this PDF at the C-Ranger site, it was designed by marine architect Ray Richards, and the original owner/builder of Ranger boats was Howard Smith.

Byrdman":2ny8sp9i said:
Now I am wondering if I have thrown away the old R-21 and Martini brochures I received in the mail back then.....hummm....
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They're still online:

www.martiniboats.com
 
OK, well folks, stand by today - your clue to gather round will be if Patty mutters those magic words "Let's just go over and see what the deal is..." We didn't go to the 2003 Boat Show to buy the CD22 - I had to write an oath in blood that we were "only going to look." We loved that boat, we sure as heck did not know we needed the CD25 when we went to the 2005 Boat Show...But this one does not seem to be realistically in the cards for the Anderson family, and we love our CD25, only needing the kicker and the autopilot to have it fully completed to our vision...But then, 2006 is the year that daughter Lydia graduates from Western, and hey, why does Austin need a college fund, anyway?:lol:


c-dancer":nzdqfskp said:
Pat,
And you're right, the C-Ranger Tug R25 will be much more expensive than the CD-25. Not only that, the 100k base price is only an introductory price. The post-boat show R25's will be much more than that, this coming straight from the horses mouth. Oh well, it's always nice to dream...

Peter
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Dan said:
There is a pattern developing here. C-Dories are not true dories and the C-Rangers are not true tugs. They look like tugs above the waterline but the semi-displacement hull is closer to a downeast style hull.
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Don't forget that the Nordig Tug and the Camano Tugs are semi displacement hulls.
 
Yup! And the Boston Whaler ain't from Boston and ain't a Whaler. Same kind of salesmanship disease me thinks. :wink: :wink:

Dusty
 
These toy and mini sized tubs certainly are cute, and would be fun cruising around the harbor in the first case and crusing around the bays, sounds, and islands as well in the second. In both cases providing you don't want much fishing or other utility capabilities.

The 21 looks pretty much like a day use boat for good weather, mostly.

I wonder how the larger one would be if caught in some serious weather?The hull is (from what some say) semi-displacement, so at displacement speeds, there may not too much difference with the CD-25, but would the CD-25 be more capable of outrunning an approaching storm when that opportunity of escape exists?

Just a passing thought. I'm impaitently waiting seeing them and all the rest plus all the C-Brats next week at the SBC / CBC! Joe.
 
dogon dory":2g8oavgb said:
Sea Wolf":2g8oavgb said:
These toy and mini sized tubs ...
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Hey, Joe was that intended or a Freudian slip?
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That really ticks me off to see the retired teacher make such errors (there is another one in Joe's last post, too). My 8th grade math teacher marked wrong an otherwise correct answer that would have given me perhaps the only 100% I ever got in math because I spelled the word "straight" wrong. On a stupid math test! If only he had possessed the foresight to know that one day George Strait would become my favorite singer, he might have recognized I was deserving of extra credit instead of humiliation. Yep. I've been angry with Mr. Williams ever since. Judging math skills by spelling aptitude. How absurd. And forty years later I suddenly have the urge to take it out on Joe the science teacher. On the other hand, maybe these things are tubs and Joe was just telling it straight.
 
Dan and Mike-

Just a slip of the, ah..................finger!

Seems the "g" and "b" are just a tiny touch away from each other!

Not that a "tug" and a "tub" are much different in shape either!

Maybe someone should get one and name it the "Tiny Toy Tubby Tug 25".

Actually, it's a nice boat, and shouldn't be satirized or named degrogatorily.

I'm anxiously waiting to see all of them at the show next week.

Yep, I'm getting a little careless with some of these posts. The spell check doesn't work with this new IMAC G5. At least with the older one it would tell you which ones were wrong, although it wouldn't put the corrections in the right word! And it's too much time consuming trouble to do them in word and then transfer them into the posting mode. Can't see the previous post while your writing, either. Will try to be more careful and less inadvertently truthful in future diatribes.

Figured I'd get layed into for the comment about the hull / speed / storm avoidance thought, but I guess that's just not arrived yet! People too busy pickin' apart grammamatical, usery, and spellin' issues!

Keep up your fine editorial work, guys! Joe.
 
Sea Wolf":1110iim5 said:
The spell check doesn't work with this new IMAC G5. .
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Even if it did Joe, "tub" is a word just like "tug" is and it wouldn't have picked it up....

Had an interesting with spellcheck at one of my jobs in the Naval Sea Systems Command. This was abbreviated "NAVSEA" and spellcheck picked it up every time and recommended a change to "NAUSEA". There were times when I thought it was more correct! :crook

See you at the show, look forward to meeting you.

Charlie
 
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