Arima 19' pilothouse?

Hi Karl,

Just saw your post and thought I'd add a bit of what I learned about the Arima boats as a long time dealer for them.

The Arima Sea Ranger 19 Hardtop is a nice boat if you're looking for something in that size range. It, of course, compromises the cockpit to get room up forward for the v-berth (the Sea Chaser model has a storage compartment forward but no v-berth so you get extra cockpit space but alas, no pilothouse, the closest you can come is the Skip Tower model with full canvas if you opt for a Sea Chaser). But as 19-footers go it packs a lot in and does it well. Since it has a modular interior (in the helm area) you can change it pretty easily to suit your needs.

Since it was designed for the Pacific Northwest it's a "sit down" boat. It's not a deep-v so it isn't intended (or necessary) to stand up to run the boat. If you exercise some throttle control (and especially with trim tabs) you can take on some very rough water and still stay comfortably seated. It runs fairly flat for good visibility forward at moderate speeds. It's intended to cruise (in any up to a decent chop) at 20 knots. It's will do 25 knots easily (with enough HP on the stern) but after 30 knots it sucks a lot of power (it's not intended to lift and reduce drag like a deep-v hull, there's too much lift in the stern for that).

I outfitted a ton of them with 90 HP Honda engines (and a few with 75s) and they do well; they don't need a huge engine to run nicely. You need nothing close to the 150 HP rating.

Like most 19-footers I'd avoid too much weight on the stern; it will put up with it better than most but it still kills the balance (just like it would in other 19-footers).

It's a very honest boat in terms of handling and doesn't have any bad habits. It will likely go through a heck of a lot more than you will. They don't break easily and they're well put together; not very fancy but very workmanlike with few, if any, issues.

Mr. Arima is a fisherman and the Arima boats were all designed around that thought with precious little given over to cruising but for an all-around utility boat they're great.

As far as headroom there are two issues: Mr. Arima hates ugly boats and wouldn't make his hardtops any higher than absolutely necessary and as I mentioned before, they're designed for sit down operation. However, there are hatches (that don't leak) in the hardtop so at your height you could absolutely stand up in the hatch over the helm seat and operate the boat that way. I find the hatches wonderful for the open boat feel...remove both of them, drop the aft curtain, open boat side windows and it's as close to an open boat feel as you can get with a hardtop. The advantage then is being able to button it back up again for a nice (mostly) weather tight cabin.

Good luck in your search.

Les
 
I appreciate your comprehensive reply. The 19' Sea Ranger HT I'm considering has the "Alaskan" bulkhead, and has a 130 HP motor, which is probably overkill, even for use on the choppy Great Lakes. But, better to have it and not need it...

If it's strictly a "sit-down" boat, perhaps it's worth focusing on suspension seats than on headroom...

The boat I'm looking at has depreciated to about 25% of replacement cost, but I realize that much of that is due to a motor that's 12 years old, which could shit the bed in a heartbeat....

My understanding is that the Arima has no plywood or balsa coring, in hull, transom, or deck, which is quite all right with me. We shall see...
 
Karl":1lh10893 said:
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If it's strictly a "sit-down" boat, perhaps it's worth focusing on suspension seats than on headroom...
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The problem is that suspension seats generally cost one headroom unless you lower the seat (and then your knees are too high). RE: the headroom - here's a picture from the Arima site showing a guy standing in the boat. My guess is that this guy is quite a bit shorter than you are.

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thanks for the chuckle, Roger. Yeah, my head would be a foot higher, but, so what? I've done some weird antics out of car sunroofs, too...so this is not exactly foreign to me...I will not go into details.
 
Karl":8fjnozj4 said:
thanks for the chuckle, Roger. Yeah, my head would be a foot higher, but, so what? I've done some weird antics out of car sunroofs, too...so this is not exactly foreign to me...I will not go into details.
So what? - standing you'll have a great view over the bow while driving. :lol: I think the guy in the photo probably can't see very well when the bow rises just prior to getting on plane.
 
my buddy has a 19' hardtop arima, and he loves it and so do I. It is a sea chaser so it has a big fishing deck and little cuddy. sea ranger would be needed if any intention of sleeping in one was to be had. He uses his cuddy for storage and only does day trips. we primarily fish out of our boats. I have fished tuna with him 40 miles off the coast out of la push and never questioned it. I love my boat too but the 19' arima is very well built boat.

the plus to am arima vs. dory is no structural wood to rot. and its faster on the water

theres a lot more perks to the dory for me and my family uses. thats why we own one. but to me arima is a solid option.
 
Arima's have a deadrise of 19 degrees C-Dory is a flat hull, zero dead rise. The Arima is faster in ruff water but rolls more at troll speed. If you want to fish off shore take the Arima, if you want to putt around the bay use a C-dory.
 
GreggHodge":2jipbx2h said:
Arima's have a deadrise of 19 degrees C-Dory is a flat hull, zero dead rise.

I think that depends on which C-Dory year/model. I believe the pre-1987 22 Cruiser and Angler had a flat bottom, but the 1987-and-newer boats do have some deadrise. Not a lot granted, compared to a V-shaped boat, but they are not flat.
 
Their were several Arimas at the SBS. They are now being built by Defiance Boats LLC. Type in Arima on the web and you will find the new web site.
 
Matt Gurnsey":1opb3jg8 said:
For the record, C-Dory adverised a 4 degree deadrise in 2008 / 09 / 10 when we were selling them.

Thanks for that number. I knew they (post-1986) weren't flat and with zero deadrise, but I didn't have a number to put to it.

Sunbeam
 
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