flapbreaker
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Well, I took some interior shots of the 29 Venture for those that are interested. I'll start off with the sticker shock first :shock:
2008 29 Venture Pictures
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Great photos, thanks! Not surprising on the sticker price.
How were the human ergonomics? Specifically, sitting at the helm--the positon of the wheel? The sight lines? Ability to stand and man the helm? The room for two people to sleep in the foreward bunk? Access to the foreward bunk and bunk under the dinette? Access to the head, room and "feeling" when in the head? Sight lines for the "navigator" with the head "hump" forward--can the navigator see foreward? Is the helms man's visual sight lines impaired by this hump? Also I wonder why the multiple cushions in the foreward bunk? (I understood that this was going to be an athwartships or oblique bunk, rather than the conventional "V".
Interesting that the traditional C Dory finish is used inside, instead of the upgraded "Venture" 23 and 26? It seemed as if the Venture was going to be "upgraded"--but the 29 does not follow the trend.
How were the human ergonomics? Specifically, sitting at the helm--the positon of the wheel? The sight lines? Ability to stand and man the helm? The room for two people to sleep in the foreward bunk? Access to the foreward bunk and bunk under the dinette? Access to the head, room and "feeling" when in the head? Sight lines for the "navigator" with the head "hump" forward--can the navigator see foreward? Is the helms man's visual sight lines impaired by this hump? Also I wonder why the multiple cushions in the foreward bunk? (I understood that this was going to be an athwartships or oblique bunk, rather than the conventional "V".
Interesting that the traditional C Dory finish is used inside, instead of the upgraded "Venture" 23 and 26? It seemed as if the Venture was going to be "upgraded"--but the 29 does not follow the trend.
flapbreaker
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thataway,
Lots of good question. I don't really have any answers due to the fact I merely walk around in the thank and took pictures. I wasn't looking at it through the eyes of a potential owner. Sorry about that. I know that the "v berth" was a lot bigger than my 22's. The cabin seemed quite spacious. Never sat at the helm either.
Lots of good question. I don't really have any answers due to the fact I merely walk around in the thank and took pictures. I wasn't looking at it through the eyes of a potential owner. Sorry about that. I know that the "v berth" was a lot bigger than my 22's. The cabin seemed quite spacious. Never sat at the helm either.
CatyMae n Steve
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I don't think I'd like the blocked view by the head, NOR would I want to duck down like one would need to in order to use the head with the door closed...not what I'd want, personally. I'm quite sure they must've found a market for it, or they wouldn't be building it, right?
Caty
Caty
Every time I see photos of this boat, it has "mistake" or "irrational exuberance" written all over it. Once you are into this price range, there's a lot of boats that look nicer inside and out. I'd be wildly surprised if many of these sell. I could be wrong and wish C-Dory the best of luck in moving these things but at that price range, I'd expect a much nicer interior.
I'm with Roger on this one. Have discussed the marketability of this boat with people who are very experienced in the marine industry who feel the same way. I do wish C-Dory luck moving these as well, but who/what is the market? Certainly not the "keep it simple and economical" set. Straight up, I'd rather have either a Rosborough or Ranger 25. It will be interesting to see at the boat show whether the hull is really as disproportionally high as it seems. I guess the factory didn't ask for my opinion so I'll stop here. Later, Mike.
CatyMae n Steve
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forrest":194ypl4n said:
Yeah, right after you crouch down to get your pants down :xnaughty I'm guessin we'd keep the urinal onboard that the guys use on the CatyMae :wink
Caty
I agree with Roger. I saw hull #1 at Bellingham last year and thought it looked like a beached whale with surprisingly little increase in interior room over the 25. Frankly I'm surprised to see a hull #2. it is certainly not towable, rather it is "transportable" with wide load signs and a Biiig truck to pull it. I wish them luck but think this will be a write off.
flapbreaker":1p0d4egy said:Well, I took some interior shots of the 29 Venture for those that are interested. I'll start off with the sticker shock first :shock:
Wow...for that price you are now into the range of the Albins. I went on the new "cruiser" version of the 28TE at a boat how just a few days ago.
Impressive.
There is nothing out there that, imo, is comparable with either a TC-255 or any of the CDory models. However the size and price of the 29 Venture move into a a market where many downeast manufacturers produce a quality boat with nice amenities.
WoW ! It's my boat on steroids. If I had the money I would buy that sucker just to be the big fish at the cruises..... what a trip... mondo C-Dory...
But then, I would be single, and I probably would have to live in it....Sue sure would not let me into the house again.... Damm this being not born rich is the pits.
Joel
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But then, I would be single, and I probably would have to live in it....Sue sure would not let me into the house again.... Damm this being not born rich is the pits.
Joel
SEA3PO
Dene,
My comment about the head, was based on it appeared that the head itself was on a platform, then the slope (about 45 degrees) of the hull and a flat floor. If the entire floor is flat, it makes things easier. If there is significant sloping floor between the head platform and the foot platform, it makes use difficult.
In the CD 25, there is less headroom in the head than in the Tom cat 255. The hump in the roof in the 25 is closer to where your head is, and for someone who is 6'2" as I am, it makes standing more difficult.
My comment about the head, was based on it appeared that the head itself was on a platform, then the slope (about 45 degrees) of the hull and a flat floor. If the entire floor is flat, it makes things easier. If there is significant sloping floor between the head platform and the foot platform, it makes use difficult.
In the CD 25, there is less headroom in the head than in the Tom cat 255. The hump in the roof in the 25 is closer to where your head is, and for someone who is 6'2" as I am, it makes standing more difficult.
Re: that head arrangement. My dock neighbor has a 60's Chris Craft 32 foot cruiser which has a huge transluscent dome over the head to port just like the Venture 29. It is difficult to see over and around it, esp. when docking from the inside station. The roof top helm, of course, does not have that problem, but it is outside.
Maybe the designer got the idea from these older cruisers' designs.
I see some major door problems with that hinged lid over the forebunk area and the bunk door hinged left, conflicting with the head door. Is it possible to leave the fore bunk area open while cruising and still be able to see out of the center front window? At least the Chris Craft model of this design had pocket doors that slide out of the way so you can leave areas open.
John
Maybe the designer got the idea from these older cruisers' designs.
I see some major door problems with that hinged lid over the forebunk area and the bunk door hinged left, conflicting with the head door. Is it possible to leave the fore bunk area open while cruising and still be able to see out of the center front window? At least the Chris Craft model of this design had pocket doors that slide out of the way so you can leave areas open.
John