06/03 - 06/05 Eastern Shore, Maryland gathering
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The South River contingent is green with envy that we will be unable to mosey over and chill with the mob at Lankford Creek this year. 's life, I guess. Have a great time, and think of me scurrying around the deck of a skipjack that has nary a winch on it, and a mainsail that weighs in the neighborhood of 5-600 pounds, whilst stepping over fourth graders who are deciding whether to be sick or trip me, while you chow down. Green with envy I say! Green! (Or, better, forget the pity and run on over to Baltimore Harbor on Thursday or Friday, so I can see some of y'all. If you do, hail "Sigsbee". We monitor 13 and 16.) Enjoy! Bruce H. 
The Fran Sea
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Captain's Choice..... OK, I give up, just where is the "Documents Section"
Captains Cat
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It's in Forums (see top of home page) scroll down and you'll see it. It's a well kept secret!!
http://www.c-brats.com/viewforum.php?f=36
Click on this and it'll take you there like magic!!
charlie
http://www.c-brats.com/viewforum.php?f=36
Click on this and it'll take you there like magic!!
charlie
The Fran Sea
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Tom, Thanks for the help, I found it, down loaded it but neither one would open....... although I was able to open it the first time it was listed a month or so ago.
I just got an email from soneone who says they're leaving Melbourne FL for the rally on May 29th and wanted to team up with us, but I don't know his boat name or user name so I can't tie them in with anyone on the "official" list. He signed his name as "Rich" and his Email address is Rfpriebe@aol.com...... Do you know who this is and are they signed up???
I just got an email from soneone who says they're leaving Melbourne FL for the rally on May 29th and wanted to team up with us, but I don't know his boat name or user name so I can't tie them in with anyone on the "official" list. He signed his name as "Rich" and his Email address is Rfpriebe@aol.com...... Do you know who this is and are they signed up???
Captains Cat
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FranSea, I'll send you the list .xls by e-mail. I don't see anyone with the name of "Rich" on there and e-mail addresses are hidden on the site. If "Rich" sees this, maybe he'll contact you directly
Charlie
Charlie
Almas Only
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Alma's Only is owned by David and Dayna Paxton, who will both be in attendance. David will arrive on Thursday, and will need to launch and park. He will drive to Washington, D.C. Saturday morning to pick up Dayna, who will be arriving by train. We have marina reservations for Friday and Saturday nights, and will depart Sunday. Please update the Excel spreadsheet.
Thanks, david
Thanks, david
The Fran Sea
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Captain's Choice...... Charlie, perhaps just before the rally, you could run off a short crib sheet of boat names & owners for each attendee. :crook I'm sure there's going to be last minute changes between now and then
Captains Cat
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I will do just that. There's a "short list" there now but I haven't updated it. will do so as soon as I think the list is "final"".
charlie
charlie
terraplane
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First, thanks to Charlie for the great work on the details of this gathering. It promises to be a wonderful event, with lots of fun, talk, boat visits, and Eastern Shore hospitality.
If you have questions, fire away. I'll be monitoring this, as will charlie, often.
OK, separate topic. I'm a brand new owner...22' C. Dory, Honda 90, hydraulic steering, Bennett tabs, shore power, two Optima Blue Top batteries.
So, up to 15 hours, all is fine. Tonight we take her out for a two hour trip, at various speeds (per breakin rules) and anchor. Switch battery switch to Number "1"...cook dinner on Wallas (fresh perch filets, cole slaw, peas, corn bread, wine)....sit and talk for about an hour. Put battery switch back to "all" and do the choke thing on the lever at steering position, and she does not start. Go back and choke at engine...no start...Let her sit for 10 minutes, not start. A friend tows me in..just a mile...sit at dock for 15 minutes, lift choke lever half way, she starts! Since i have never had an out board, i need advice on the ways of these engines.
Comments welcomed.
If you see me being towed in at the gathering, you will know it is Terraplane!
tm
If you have questions, fire away. I'll be monitoring this, as will charlie, often.
OK, separate topic. I'm a brand new owner...22' C. Dory, Honda 90, hydraulic steering, Bennett tabs, shore power, two Optima Blue Top batteries.
So, up to 15 hours, all is fine. Tonight we take her out for a two hour trip, at various speeds (per breakin rules) and anchor. Switch battery switch to Number "1"...cook dinner on Wallas (fresh perch filets, cole slaw, peas, corn bread, wine)....sit and talk for about an hour. Put battery switch back to "all" and do the choke thing on the lever at steering position, and she does not start. Go back and choke at engine...no start...Let her sit for 10 minutes, not start. A friend tows me in..just a mile...sit at dock for 15 minutes, lift choke lever half way, she starts! Since i have never had an out board, i need advice on the ways of these engines.
Comments welcomed.
If you see me being towed in at the gathering, you will know it is Terraplane!
tm
El and Bill
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Tom --
Is your Wallas wired DIRECTLY (not thru your 1-all-2 switch) to your house battery? It should be. Do you have one battery dedicated ONLY to the house and the other dedicated ONLY to engine start? One should make an 'all' link, in most setups, only for an emergency start (like the battery dedicated to engine has failed).
If you use the house battery only for house needs (never linked all) and the engine battery only for starts (never, except in case of failure) linked to all, you should 'always' have a charged battery for starts.
A good battery discharged by short, high demand use, when rested, will often recover much of its charge just sitting. And that might explain the start after you got home.
These are just ideas that may not pertain to your setup.
Oh, and we are 'splashed' at Cutter, will be doing a little truck fixup today, and then maybe off to do some Chesapeake cruising as soon as we can. Met TJ yesterday as he came here to check on his beautiful new boat, C's The Day. A nice Chessie welcome. See you soon. El and Bill
Is your Wallas wired DIRECTLY (not thru your 1-all-2 switch) to your house battery? It should be. Do you have one battery dedicated ONLY to the house and the other dedicated ONLY to engine start? One should make an 'all' link, in most setups, only for an emergency start (like the battery dedicated to engine has failed).
If you use the house battery only for house needs (never linked all) and the engine battery only for starts (never, except in case of failure) linked to all, you should 'always' have a charged battery for starts.
A good battery discharged by short, high demand use, when rested, will often recover much of its charge just sitting. And that might explain the start after you got home.
These are just ideas that may not pertain to your setup.
Oh, and we are 'splashed' at Cutter, will be doing a little truck fixup today, and then maybe off to do some Chesapeake cruising as soon as we can. Met TJ yesterday as he came here to check on his beautiful new boat, C's The Day. A nice Chessie welcome. See you soon. El and Bill
The Fran Sea
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Tom...
You don't actually say if the engine "cranks but won't start", or "won't crank". If it won't crank, then Halycon's comments are appropriate; if it is a dead battery issue, and you're wired up correctly, you have to make sure both batteries are fully charged. The engine will only charge the battery it's connected to unless you have a battery isolator wired in. So, unless you're plugged in at the dock and wired up with a charging system, you need to make sure you periodically charge # 2 battery. I do this by running out on #1 and in on #2. It's not recommeded to run on "both" with a single engine.
If the motor cranked but won't start, my guess is that you "flooded" which can be easily done with a carburated engine (you did mention choking the engine). If that was the case, just sitting for awhile evaporated the excess gas. Engines with carbs can easily be flooded. With my old boat, I needed to choke it on initial startup, but after that no choke or it would flood out. Sometimes with a carburated engine after warm up and a restart later on, you may need to just give it a little throttle. All of that said, with a new engine you rally shouldn't have ANY problems starting if it cranks.
Hope that helps
You don't actually say if the engine "cranks but won't start", or "won't crank". If it won't crank, then Halycon's comments are appropriate; if it is a dead battery issue, and you're wired up correctly, you have to make sure both batteries are fully charged. The engine will only charge the battery it's connected to unless you have a battery isolator wired in. So, unless you're plugged in at the dock and wired up with a charging system, you need to make sure you periodically charge # 2 battery. I do this by running out on #1 and in on #2. It's not recommeded to run on "both" with a single engine.
If the motor cranked but won't start, my guess is that you "flooded" which can be easily done with a carburated engine (you did mention choking the engine). If that was the case, just sitting for awhile evaporated the excess gas. Engines with carbs can easily be flooded. With my old boat, I needed to choke it on initial startup, but after that no choke or it would flood out. Sometimes with a carburated engine after warm up and a restart later on, you may need to just give it a little throttle. All of that said, with a new engine you rally shouldn't have ANY problems starting if it cranks.
Hope that helps
Captains Cat
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Tom, good advice from all. I find that when it's warm out, I usually don't need to choke it at all to start it, except the first time. Even sitting for a couple of hours doesn't cool it off enough to require choking. Not sure what sort of remote engine controls you have but mine is the one where you lift up a little lever to give it some throttle, lift it all the way to choke it.
When warm at all, not even the little throttle is needed.
I'm pretty sure it's not serious, just a case of getting used to the critter.
Charlie
When warm at all, not even the little throttle is needed.
I'm pretty sure it's not serious, just a case of getting used to the critter.
Charlie
Troubleshooting from 3000 miles ain't easy, but a thought or two. To meet the stricter regulations the carb guys have had to lean the mixtures a whole bunch in the late models. If you have a "new" engine, partial choke won't do it -- it's virtually impossible to over-choke when cold. Different starting technique than the older Hondas.
I use FULL choke to start -- then ease back to a fast idle for warmup. If the engine is warm, no choke is usually needed. Flooding is easy in the "older" Hondas -- flooding is difficult in the late models.
HTH,
Dusty
I use FULL choke to start -- then ease back to a fast idle for warmup. If the engine is warm, no choke is usually needed. Flooding is easy in the "older" Hondas -- flooding is difficult in the late models.
HTH,
Dusty
Update from Chestertown - for those who want to run upriver to Chestertown on one of the three days, we have three options for docking, other than dropping the hook. I've coded these on a map that you can find at this link.
I’ll get some better maps up later, and will have copies at the home marina for you when you check in.
First and handiest (A) is at the foot of High Street, the main drag. Two to three C-Dory's can probably fit - dockage is first-come, first-served. This dock is farthest upstream.
Second option (B) is along the Town Dock used by the replica schooner Sultana. http://www.schoonersultana.com/index.php - Sultana gets the long outside space, but we can tie up along the downstream side of the dock. This dock is right off of the Old Wharf restaurant, which is readily visible from the water.
Third option (C) is along the outer bulkhead at Wilmer Park. This lies downstream of Chestertown Marina. I checked today, about an hour after low tide, and we had four feet of water right along the bulkhead. This is rarely used and a good bet as a result.
All of the above are within short walking distance of Chestertown center and points of interest. For the town's web page, check http://www.chestertown.com/
If any of you are in the area the weekend prior to our gathering, that's Tea Party weekend, a big blow out http://www.chestertownteaparty.com/. Liz and I were supposed to be out of town that weekend, but the trip has been cancelled - if any of you decide to come by to check it out, let us know. El and Bill, I know you’re in the area and had talked about heading up.
Tom – mark down two more for crabs, although I eat enough for three! (Promise I won’t any more than my share this time, ‘though.) Sound like you have enough answers on your starting problem to start trouble-shooting. I don’t generally have to choke after the first start up in this kind of weather, unless she sits for quite a while.
I’ll get some better maps up later, and will have copies at the home marina for you when you check in.
First and handiest (A) is at the foot of High Street, the main drag. Two to three C-Dory's can probably fit - dockage is first-come, first-served. This dock is farthest upstream.
Second option (B) is along the Town Dock used by the replica schooner Sultana. http://www.schoonersultana.com/index.php - Sultana gets the long outside space, but we can tie up along the downstream side of the dock. This dock is right off of the Old Wharf restaurant, which is readily visible from the water.
Third option (C) is along the outer bulkhead at Wilmer Park. This lies downstream of Chestertown Marina. I checked today, about an hour after low tide, and we had four feet of water right along the bulkhead. This is rarely used and a good bet as a result.
All of the above are within short walking distance of Chestertown center and points of interest. For the town's web page, check http://www.chestertown.com/
If any of you are in the area the weekend prior to our gathering, that's Tea Party weekend, a big blow out http://www.chestertownteaparty.com/. Liz and I were supposed to be out of town that weekend, but the trip has been cancelled - if any of you decide to come by to check it out, let us know. El and Bill, I know you’re in the area and had talked about heading up.
Tom – mark down two more for crabs, although I eat enough for three! (Promise I won’t any more than my share this time, ‘though.) Sound like you have enough answers on your starting problem to start trouble-shooting. I don’t generally have to choke after the first start up in this kind of weather, unless she sits for quite a while.
terraplane
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Hello to all...
Well, just around the corner...and here comes June 3!
Just 11 days, right?
We think! we are prepared...John A. at Lankford says he will man radio on Friday and be there until the last of the Friday boats is in.
We'll have plenty of transport if people need a run into Rock Hall for any shopping...
Crabs are on order(for those who have not met our Chesapeake Blue crab, we will have some "volunteer" experts demonstrate the process of opening, extracting meat, etc. though it is sacrilege to a real Eastern Shoreman, we will have a few mallets available...usual tool is a crab knife)..shirts ready tomorrow.
We've been getting some publicity here and there...one friend wanted to know if this is a "rowdy bunch"...couldn't say.
Our new 22, Sally's Sister is behaving. I think i have conquered the starting problem(i was flooding it)....still have to lift the choke lever a bit even after running for an hour, to start...
tonight, took Ann(spouse) and Sally and Julia (daughters...and thus name of boat, Sally's Sister) out for the evening on the Chester. Beautiful. Dinner at anchor in Langford Bay...crab salad, greens, chips, crab soup..white wine...still figuring out storage, where to put things while cooking, but real fun.
Backing into a slip is still an experience...no easier than a 40 ft. single screw diesel...but learning fast.
Everyone here is excited about your arrival. If it rains, all 60 of us will meet for cocktails on Halcyon, (ok, El and Bill?)
tom/terraplane
Well, just around the corner...and here comes June 3!
Just 11 days, right?
We think! we are prepared...John A. at Lankford says he will man radio on Friday and be there until the last of the Friday boats is in.
We'll have plenty of transport if people need a run into Rock Hall for any shopping...
Crabs are on order(for those who have not met our Chesapeake Blue crab, we will have some "volunteer" experts demonstrate the process of opening, extracting meat, etc. though it is sacrilege to a real Eastern Shoreman, we will have a few mallets available...usual tool is a crab knife)..shirts ready tomorrow.
We've been getting some publicity here and there...one friend wanted to know if this is a "rowdy bunch"...couldn't say.
Our new 22, Sally's Sister is behaving. I think i have conquered the starting problem(i was flooding it)....still have to lift the choke lever a bit even after running for an hour, to start...
tonight, took Ann(spouse) and Sally and Julia (daughters...and thus name of boat, Sally's Sister) out for the evening on the Chester. Beautiful. Dinner at anchor in Langford Bay...crab salad, greens, chips, crab soup..white wine...still figuring out storage, where to put things while cooking, but real fun.
Backing into a slip is still an experience...no easier than a 40 ft. single screw diesel...but learning fast.
Everyone here is excited about your arrival. If it rains, all 60 of us will meet for cocktails on Halcyon, (ok, El and Bill?)
tom/terraplane
El and Bill
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We'd love it, Tom. Glad to hear that Sally's Sister is working out so well for you folks.
Pat Anderson
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Tom - something is amiss if you can't put the put the choke lever down after five minutes of warning up...I would definitely get this looked into by a qualified Honda mechanic, it sounds like it could spell trouble...
And yes, June 3 is creeping right up on us! We are really excited out here on the Left Coast to be able to come and meet you all on the Eastern Shore! I just hope the Crab Queen is over her bronchitis/walking pneumonia or whatever so she can taste the blue crab!
And yes, June 3 is creeping right up on us! We are really excited out here on the Left Coast to be able to come and meet you all on the Eastern Shore! I just hope the Crab Queen is over her bronchitis/walking pneumonia or whatever so she can taste the blue crab!
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terraplane
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Pat,
My explanation of my starting problem was a little garbled. It is really pretty much ok now. Here is a clearer statement: (i hope).
I choke the engine using the side lever, holding it up, and it starts right up. I hold the lever in the fast idle position for about a minute and then it idles just fine at 1,000.
After running the boat for about an hour, and then letting it sit at anchor for about two, it starts easily, but i have to use just a bit of the choke lever (kind of an inch or so up, until i hear a faint click) to start it. Ihave not run the boat for more than two hours straight yet...so maybe it will not need even that bit of priming when it is warmer.
I have my first checkup scheduled in June so i will see what they say at Cutter.
Look forward to seeing you soon.
tom/terraplane
My explanation of my starting problem was a little garbled. It is really pretty much ok now. Here is a clearer statement: (i hope).
I choke the engine using the side lever, holding it up, and it starts right up. I hold the lever in the fast idle position for about a minute and then it idles just fine at 1,000.
After running the boat for about an hour, and then letting it sit at anchor for about two, it starts easily, but i have to use just a bit of the choke lever (kind of an inch or so up, until i hear a faint click) to start it. Ihave not run the boat for more than two hours straight yet...so maybe it will not need even that bit of priming when it is warmer.
I have my first checkup scheduled in June so i will see what they say at Cutter.
Look forward to seeing you soon.
tom/terraplane