04/15 - 04/16 - Cathlamet, WA

c-dancer":1gjyd7wi said:
So is the date for the gathering April 16-17 (Sunday-Monday) or should it be April 15-16 (Saturday-Sunday)? :?
Peter

It looks like the earlier comment about the "web wizzards" was a little generous. So I fouled up. Big deal. I'm good at it. Sorry.

Thanks for catching that, and you are right. It is April 15 and 16. Some will probably show up Friday (like us, I hope), and some will probably stay until Monday (like CatyMae who can't hold a job), but the official dates that Larry intended, I believe, are 15 and 16.

And we haven't heard much from Chuck's friend Wineman lately. Maybe he finally discovered how to grow Seagrams and got filthy rich. Alright - he can buy Cathlamet and we can go any durn day we want!
 
TyBoo":2v1j0ddn said:
some will probably stay until Monday (like CatyMae who can't hold a job), but the official dates that Larry intended, I believe, are 15 and 16.
and your point is? :P
PS we'll be towing with our quiet Ford Super Duty Diesel....
 
CatyMae n Steve":vzhofw8y said:
and your point is? :P

Jealously. Envy. My stupid job is right across the stupid river from Cathlamet. The stupid fishing line starts at the stupid mill and ends at Cathlamet. I'll be stupid working Monday while you will be deciding which side of the stupid line to fish on. That's all I meant, Maam. I am very happy for you, but also envious. Well, not really so envious, because I have no complaints. It was just a joke. A stupid one perhaps, but a joke is all it was.

Oh, sure, while I am pouring my stupid heart out here with the apologies, you edit your post and add the line about the Ford. And I do acknowledge that your Ford is quiet. So quiet, in fact, that there was only one diesel pickup made that year that was quieter. And guess what one it was?? You may have the quietest one at Cathlamet, though. I'll be running up river with the quietest engine of them all - Honda.
 
B~C":364t6ji6 said:
I hope your pinholes are fixed by then, don't want to be rafted up to a sinker
sinker or stinker?

Mike, I was givin you the raspberries...I know you're jokin...but I'm not jokin bout the quiet ford... :xtongue

one other pickup made that year that was quieter? another ford? gotta be! :smile
 
Hi All,
This gathering sounds to be a good time and I'd like to join in and try again to catch a springer. I sure learned alot last year and had a great time with everyone.
I have been trying to find a outlet to buy some of those un-rigged, rotary herring clips but have had no success. I used the two that someone gave me at Cathlamet last year and had great success until the rudders gave out. I hear Englunds in Astoria might sale them in bulk. Their web site is under construction so I might have to give them a call.
Mike, of Tyboo: I tried to e-mailed you for a address so I could send you the "Killer Loading Tool" that you lent me last year at Cathlamet. I will get it to you at the SBS.
Jim, work Release[/u]
 
Work Release":3i6b2miq said:
I have been trying to find a outlet to buy some of those un-rigged, rotary herring clips but have had no success. [/u]
Seattle Marine sells those...I ordered a bunch....it took about 8 weeks to get them, so if you order now, you might have 'em by then :wink:
Seattle Marine and Fishing Supply Co.
800-426-2783
 
If the weather is decent I would be interested in leading or participating in a sightseeing tour to Tongue Point via the Clifton, Prairie and South Channels and returning. It's a great trip with loads of wildlife and history and the river level would be good.
 
There goes my fishing.......

Not necessarily, Wineman. Iffen you want to fish we'll find room for you somewhere. I'm not sure who all is going to be on my boat yet, will let you know when I find out.

Chuck, great idea on the cruise.
 
Good news! We almost certainly will be to fish for springers on the planned weekend! See below.

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Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife

Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife

January 26, 2006

Contacts: (WDFW) Cindy Le Fleur, (360) 906-6706

(ODFW) Curt Melcher, (503) 947-6201 or Anne Pressentin, (503) 657-2000
Spring chinook seasons set for the Columbia River

OREGON CITY – Anglers may fish for hatchery-reared Columbia River spring chinook salmon downstream of the Interstate 5 bridge at least through April 19 under an agreement reached today by Washington and Oregon fishery managers.

The season, which began Jan. 1, is open seven days per week.

“It’s important to recognize that staff expects the season will last significantly longer than April 19,” said Curt Melcher of the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife. “This is a conservative approach.”

The decision provides for the greatest number of angler days, while protecting fish stocks listed under the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA) and providing for a commercial fishing season, said Bill Tweit of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW). That was the stated intent of both the Washington and Oregon fish and wildlife commissions earlier this month.

With poor returns projected for the second straight year, both states agreed to discuss any additional spring chinook sport-fishing days and areas in mid-April.

Fishery manager can then use catch data and an updated forecast of the run size to determine the course of the fishing season, Tweit said. Biologists predict that 161,400 spring chinook will enter the Columbia River in 2006, with 88,400 destined for tributaries upstream of Bonneville. Last year, 195,400 actually entered the river after biologists predicted a run of more than 400,000 fish.

Concentrating this year’s recreational fishery in the lower river will help protect will fish destined for rivers upstream of Bonneville Dam while helping to extend the fishing season, Tweit said.

“Handling mortality for wild upriver fish is the primary constraint on the spring chinook fishery,” he said. “By focusing the fishery on the lower river – where hatchery fish from several runs predominate – we can extend the fishing season.”

Rules in effect for spring chinook fisheries on the Columbia River require anglers and commercial fishers to release any wild salmon or steelhead they intercept. Mortality rates for released wild chinook – also known as “allowable impact” – cannot exceed 2 percent of the wild run, under federal ESA guidelines.

In recent years, actual mortality rates have been well below the ESA limit, said Tweit, noting that both states have been managing the sport and commercial fisheries early in the year as if the allowable impact were 1.5 percent. More fishing days will be added if the run size comes in as predicted, he said.

In addition to establishing rules for the spring chinook season, fishery managers from Washington and Oregon reconciled the two states’ policies establishing how the allowable incidental mortality rate will be apportioned between recreational and commercial fisheries.

Earlier this month, the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission voted to allocate 60 percent of the allowable mortality rate to the sport fishery and 40 percent to the commercial fishery – the policy in effect for the previous two years. A week earlier, the Oregon Fish and Wildlife Commission voted to allocate 55 percent of incidental wild chinook mortalities to the sport fishery and 45 percent to the commercial fleet, allowing a 5 percent shift in either direction.

Under the authority provided by both commissions, fish and wildlife directors for both states agreed to allocate 57 percent of the allowable mortality to the sport fishery and 43 percent to the commercial fishery. With the agreed to season structure, biologists predict that sport anglers will harvest at least 30,900 hatchery-reared spring chinook in the Columbia River and tributaries and commercial boats will harvest at least 6,700 hatchery chinook in the Columbia River and lower river bays (“select areas”). Commercial fishing seasons will not be established until late February.

The rules adopted Thursday allow anglers to fish for adipose fin-clipped chinook, adipose fin-clipped steelhead and shad from now through April 19 seven days a week from the Columbia River mouth upstream to the Interstate 5 bridge.

In addition, the area from the Tower Island power lines upstream to McNary Dam plus the Oregon bank between Bonneville Dam and the Tower Island power lines will be open March 16 – April 30. Washington anglers may retain two adult salmon and two adult steelhead per day. Oregon anglers may retain two adult salmon or steelhead per day.

In other action, the two states:

· Agreed to expand the sturgeon spawning sanctuary below Bonneville Dam from the current five miles to seven miles in length to give additional protection to the fish. As a result from May 1 to July 31 angling for sturgeon will be prohibited from Marker 85 to Bonneville Dam;

· Added fishing periods to a non-Indian commercial sturgeon fishery in the Columbia River;

· Adopted a non-Indian commercial salmon fishing plan and gear regulations;

· Adopted a commercial shad fishing season;

· Established a Treaty Indian gillnet fishery for sturgeon; and

· Established commercial fishing seasons for spring chinook in bays (“select areas”) located in the lower Columbia River.
 
Fish, or, cruise, I like the sound of the wine tour through the backwaters to Tounge Point. I hear that's pretty scenic and it would be nice to follow somebody through the swamps that knows the way
 
I'm not sure If I'll be going or not yet. I'm unfamiliar with Cathlamet. Is there moorage and if so who do you contact. Do you troll for springers down there or anchor? If you anchor do I need an anchor system where I can drop off anchor because I only have one of those cheap windlass systems. :smilep Any more info on how these gatherings work would be great as I've never been to one. THanks.

Spencer
 
How they work:

(A) Sign up on the sign-up page.
(2) Show up.

Seriously.

There is moorage at Catheterdelamet. The fishing part Helen O can answer best, but you can do both - two years ago, I got one fish by each method as a guest on Larry's boat (beginner's luck, and wind-aided!).


flapbreaker":1i8jwq08 said:
I'm not sure If I'll be going or not yet. I'm unfamiliar with Cathlamet. Is there moorage and if so who do you contact. Do you troll for springers down there or anchor? If you anchor do I need an anchor system where I can drop off anchor because I only have one of those cheap windlass systems. :smilep Any more info on how these gatherings work would be great as I've never been to one. THanks.

Spencer
 
Hi flapbreaker, Pat Anderson has the right of it, just sign up and show up. Cathlamet is a good place to know if you fish or cruise on the Columbia River. There is a lot of info on the past 2004 and 2005 Cathlamet gatherings. http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=1369 and http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=464

Great harbormaster, moorage is the cheapest you'll find anywhere at about $6 per night, downtown Cathlamet is only a few blocks walk from the harbor and they have a fuel dock. I hope you can make it.
If I can talk Lyle T. into coming down again this year we can probably talk him into giving a few more lessons on salmon slaying.
 
HEY LARRY, any fish down there yet? They haven't sold the Port of Cathlametstan to any Arab countries have they?

April is around the corner :)
 
I've heard of a few fish being caught down there (mentioned on the Gamefishin.com board) but so far the return looks bad. No springers have yet to be included in the Bonneville count (which was last updated on March 3rd). Last year as of March 3 only 2 had been counted. I'm still optimistic for a better springer run on the theory that high steelhead counts are indicative of improved ocean survival rates (so far >2100 steelhead at Bonneville compared to about 180 last year at the same time). However, my guess is that in reality there is no correlation in springer and steelhead run sizes. I keep looking at the Bonneville fish cam and have yet to see a springer go by. I'll keep my fingers crossed and I'll keep looking. I'm glad we pushed the trip back a few weeks this year!
 
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