The C-Brats Forum Index
HomeForumsMy TopicsCalendarEvent SignupsMemberlistOur C-DorysThe Brat MapPhotos

Susuki Tilt Limiter Cam

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The C-Brats Forum Index -> Outboards and Systems
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Robbi



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1193
City/Region: Chambers Bay
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2023
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Photos: C-Run
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Susuki Tilt Limiter Cam Reply with quote

Suzuki Tilt Limiter Cam.....



Just a FYI:
After boating on Tuesday evening, I came into my boathouse and tied up the boat. When I tried to raise the engine, nothing. I used both of the trim buttons, the one on the engine and the one on the control handle. It would go down, but it would not come up. A bit of panic on my part because the tide was going out and my boat goes dry on low tides. It was now dark, the wind was up, and no where to go. Long story short. If the tilt limiter cam (the black plastic ring around the swivel bracket in the picture) moves to the full up position, the motor will not raise. The feature is designed to limit the tilt of the engine in case the engine hits the motor well in the full up position. Who would guess that it could limit ANY upward movement of the engine? I talked to three outboard mechanics, and they all thought the problem was in a relay. The forth mentioned the limiter cam right off. I rotated it downward, and the motor lifted up, much to my relief. I am not sure what moved the cam. I suspect the control cables may come into contact with the cam at some point, or it may have vibrated enough to move. Don't know for sure, but now I know how fix the problem. Robbi

_________________
2023 C-Dory 23 Venture Sport

2003 C-Dory 19
sold 2019

2004 C-Dory 16 Cruiser
Sold 8/2015

2004 C-Dory 19 "C-Run"
Sold 8/2011

1989 C-Dory 16 Angler
Sold 2010
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
dogon dory



Joined: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 1321

State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: DogOnDory
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, Folks - Post Deleted By Author

Last edited by dogon dory on Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:59 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Alok



Joined: 19 Mar 2005
Posts: 291
City/Region: League City
State or Province: TX
Photos: Top Cat
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another situation with the Suzuki cams- if they are adjusted differently, the motors in a two engine boat will rise to different heights in the fully "up" position. Drove me nuts until I figured it out.
_________________
Alok
C-Dory Tomcat (Topcat) sold January 2012
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
timflan



Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 546
City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Two Lucky Fish +1
Photos: Two Lucky Fish
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another thing...if you adjust it so the engine lifts up just barely far enough for the tilt support lever to engage, DO NOT drop the engine onto the tilt support lever, because the tilt limiter cam will prevent you from lifting the engine OFF the tilt support lever. It won't move at all. So then ya gotta reach under there and readjust the cam, so you might as well not have adjusted it in the first place.

In my case, it's pretty difficult to find a spot that allows the full range of movement I need to engage the tilt support lever AND prevents the hydraulics from straining when the full range of motion has been reached.

I have a Suzuki-manufactured, Johnson-branded 90 hp engine from 2005.

_________________
Timothy R. R. Flanagan
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
matt_unique



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 1881
City/Region: Boston
State or Province: MA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Napoleon
Photos: Napoleon
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 3:51 pm    Post subject: Port engine Reply with quote

Hi gentlemen,
Sorry to ping an old thread but today I splashed Napoleon and my port engine will not trim all the way up. It goes up and down fine to this point then stops. My starboard engine goes all the way up as usual.

Where do I find the mechanism that regulates the trim level? I've never touched it on purpose but want to start there.

Thanks!

_________________
Captain Matt
Former owner of Napoleon (Tomcat) Hull #65 w/Counter Rotating Suzuki 150's.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
starcrafttom



Joined: 07 Nov 2003
Posts: 7932
City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: to be decided later
Photos: Susan E
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the main cause of the problem is salt crust build up around the cam limit switch. you have to spray with fresh water around the switch which is under the motor body inside of the motor mount. you cant see it unless the motor is up on most boats. and you cant get the motor up unless its clean.
_________________
Thomas J Elliott
http://tomsfishinggear.blogspot.com/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Robbi



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1193
City/Region: Chambers Bay
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2023
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Photos: C-Run
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trim limited cam on my 90 is located right
Below the bracket where the steering arm is
Attached, in the center of swivel bracket. It is a black
Plastic ring that is in the center of the bracket.

I will try and post a picture.

Robbi
[/img]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Robbi



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1193
City/Region: Chambers Bay
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2023
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Photos: C-Run
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




Here is a picture of the trim limiter cam on my 2004 Suzuki 90. It is located on the front of the engine and this picture was taken with the engine in the full down position. The steering arm is directly above, surrounded by all of the necessary grease. Embarassed

You can change the tilt by rotating the black plastic ring on the cam.

Robbi
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Robbi



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1193
City/Region: Chambers Bay
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2023
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Photos: C-Run
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops! Try again.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
matt_unique



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 1881
City/Region: Boston
State or Province: MA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Napoleon
Photos: Napoleon
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:04 am    Post subject: Tilt Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. Perhaps I accidentally bumped it when installing the new steering system this winter. I will check it out again today. My shop manual has a picture but it's very small.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sea Wolf



Joined: 01 Nov 2003
Posts: 8650
City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same type of problem on my 2005 Yamaha 90. The ring with the cam is plastic and actually broke. It was somewhat difficult to replace, so I just wired it together with stainless steel wire. Hasn't failed yet! (This is the only problem I've had with the Yamaha in 6 years!)

Joe. Teeth Thumbs Up

_________________
Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California

"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
matt_unique



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 1881
City/Region: Boston
State or Province: MA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Napoleon
Photos: Napoleon
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Found it Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. It can very easily be bumped and I must have done it when installing the new steering system.

It is a small plastic piece that rotates very easily - like turning the knob on a car stereo. Took 2 seconds once I knew what to look for and voila - lifts to the usual spot.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
timflan



Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 546
City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Two Lucky Fish +1
Photos: Two Lucky Fish
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other thing: Make sure you get it adjusted so the trim/tilt hydraulics STOP PUSHING before it reaches the mechanical limit of the engine's travel, whatever that happens to be. It can put a lot of torque on things if it's still pushing when there ain't no place left to go!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The C-Brats Forum Index -> Outboards and Systems All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
     Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Page generation time: 0.0483s (PHP: 66% - SQL: 34%) - SQL queries: 26 - GZIP disabled - Debug on