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colbysmith



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just talked to WaterBill yesterday and sounds like he just had the same problem. He also puts a lot of mileage on his trailer. He has the same brakes I believe, DB-35.
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Salmon Fisher



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently replaced all my brake pads and have the Tie Down brand. One of the calipers needed to be replaced. Went on Etrailer.com and found this Kodiak dacromet caliper to be less expensive and made from cast iron, instead of the aluminum Tie Down. BTW no problem so far with rubber bushings coming out of the old Tie Down calipers.


https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Kodiak/KDBC225DAC.html?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=1672411816&gbraid=0AAAAAD_vMtlAB72ykAZ7fHVJcHmgCYKHM&gclid=CjwKCAjwgb_CBhBMEiwA0p3oOFH1vVIQ_VeV88L18xDOK-pTyqTqw5dUk-7QePDsIfJjN1-6bmcHCxoCHXYQAvD_BwE

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if those will interchange with the DB-35's? Currently I have 3 or 4 spare DB-35 Calipers, with brake pads, and then also several sets of spare brakpads. And just received ten caliper boots (p/n 33305). I think once my spare caliper boots are gone through, I will either consider swapping to a different caliper, or replace it all with fully electric brakes. It appears those Kodiak brakes have a bronze bushing, but inside of a rubber outer bushing. Still, I think having only the rubber bushing is not holding up to any heat.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My caliper pins do not have the rubber cap enclosing the end. Maybe this cap is just trapping the heat. I would keep the slide pins well greased. Maybe cut a hole at least 2/3 the diameter of the caliper pin diameter, centered in the end of the cap? This might allow enough airflow to keep the pins cool enough to not melt the bushing. Maybe just try it on the troublesome calipers? If this works, it is a cheap fix. Good luck. -Jeff-
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colby,

I would call Etrailer and ask if those Kodiak calipers cross reference with yours. Or you can look it up on that website, there are lots of questions for each product and Etrailer publishes both questions and answers.

Patrick
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, maybe I'll stick with my single axle surge brakes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salmon Fisher wrote:
Colby,

I would call Etrailer and ask if those Kodiak calipers cross reference with yours. Or you can look it up on that website, there are lots of questions for each product and Etrailer publishes both questions and answers.

Patrick


I sent them a message today. Will be interesting to see their reply. A quick google search leads me to believe they are not interchangeable. I've got 8 more of the rubber boots I carry with me, along with two spare calipers (and one at home), and several brake pad sets. Until I run out of those spare parts, or it gets to be a bigger hassle, I'll probably just continue routine greasing of the slider pins before long trips. The disc brakes are superior to drum brakes, but the maintenance on the electric drums was sure a lot easier and less expensive! Colby
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:21 pm    Post subject: Dexter brake caliper boots. Reply with quote

Just a thought about the deteriorating sliding pin cover boots.If the boot stays on,all well and good,I think the boot is there to resist the caliper pin from rusting and gumming up while the pads are wearing and restricting the inward motion of the moving part of the caliper.It is disconcerting to find the boots deteriorating before the pins have reached their maximum inward travel at which time you would have to replace the pads.I think your idea of heat is part of the problem but I would consider not replacing the boots after 500 /1000 miles,only lightly oil the exposed pin heads each time you service the trailer.
By that time the bronze/brass pin bushings would have worn enough to allow a dirty pin to slide without binding.P.S.I suspect the trailer brakes are not as long lived as auto brakes and can be expected to wear out much sooner,In Florida with salt water that is about every two years.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Dexter brake caliper boots. Reply with quote

KevinMc wrote:
Just a thought about the deteriorating sliding pin cover boots.If the boot stays on,all well and good,I think the boot is there to resist the caliper pin from rusting and gumming up while the pads are wearing and restricting the inward motion of the moving part of the caliper.It is disconcerting to find the boots deteriorating before the pins have reached their maximum inward travel at which time you would have to replace the pads.I think your idea of heat is part of the problem but I would consider not replacing the boots after 500 /1000 miles,only lightly oil the exposed pin heads each time you service the trailer.
By that time the bronze/brass pin bushings would have worn enough to allow a dirty pin to slide without binding.P.S.I suspect the trailer brakes are not as long lived as auto brakes and can be expected to wear out much sooner,In Florida with salt water that is about every two years.


As mentioned earlier, I have been pulling the pins at the end of the year, and then before any long trip, and regreasing them with a good quality caliper grease that is compatible with rubber. Perhaps it would be easier for me to remove the boot caps and then "oil" the top of the pin, assuming the oil would work it's way into the main part of the boot. In this case, I could oil the pins much more frequently. I might try this with some spray silicone, as it would be very simple to do each time the boat is off the trailer. Colby
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