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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
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| colbysmith wrote: | | Hm...all this talk about the wedge... I trailer my c-22 with the Merc 115 all the way down. I still have plenty of clearance. I do place it in gear to keep the prop from spinning in the wind. Is there any problems doing it this way? Colby |
As long as you're careful about the skeg not scraping on a sudden (like into/out of a parking lot) transition where one surface is flat and the other sloped moderately, you should be fine. Unless of course, some idiot hits you from behind (at any speed) where, if the motor were up, he/she would have done little damage to the boat/trailer and said idiot takes out your lower unit (with his/her) front unit...  Mine, on the 16 and the 22' when on the road were always up, betting on most idiots driving small sports cars!
With the TC255 and the engines up, they are pretty well out of any-idiot-range (new word) b/c of height, on lower boat towing rigs, maybe not. Of course if IDIOT is driving a big rig, all bets are off..  
Charlie
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Adding this post here because it was first posted on the "Best Ideas for Under $2)" thread, possibly my mistake.
| C-WEED wrote: | I have the Yamaha F80/F100. One day I noticed my lift lock bent out to the point where it slipped off the face and bound on the corner of the bracket. I raised the motor full up and hammered it back straight. That metal is very soft. I have tried dowels, 2x4's, metal all-thread and such and they all fell out dangling on the lanyard in a short distance. In a rush to head to the lake one day I ran to the garage and grabbed what seemed to be made for just this task.
Pics on page 3 of my album. I would post here but don't know how. It is known as a Stanley (brand) tool or Stanley pry-bar. Can be had at any hardware for under $20. Others brands available now. Fits right in perfect ahead of the lift cylinder so it is about impossible to fall out. Recommend lanyard anyway. The leaf spring shape allows the bar to cradle and has a dab of flex so all is well. Works good on my Yamaha not sure with other brands. Longer Bar length is available for larger outboards. Just like it was made for it! |
Chris- Here are the photos:
Does the metal bar cut into the metal castings and start corrosion?
Joe. 
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011
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City/Region: Madison
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C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Traveler
Photos: C-Traveler and Midnight-Flyer
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Charlie, I have worried about that everytime I go over a steep depression. But so far no problem. And I have gone over a few that would be considered large.... As far as someone hitting me from behind, it's all insured regardless...personally I believe there is less stress on the transom with the motor down.... none the less I'll have to look more into trailering with the motor up. If for no other reason than I don't have to pay as much attention to the road "divots".  Colby |
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colbysmith
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City/Region: Madison
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| Hm.... kind of like the twin vs. single thing. FWIW, in earlier days, my pontoon had the device that went between the skag and trailer that held the motor up part way. Worked great, lasted a long time, trailered lots of miles that way. Last boat, a Searay I/O I used the devices that snapped over the hydraulic arms, and again with lots of trailering worked well, lasted long time, no issues. (Both these boat lower units would scrape ground if left down....) This boat so far seems to do just fine with motor down, no problems. I'm satisfied with clearance, and being aware of it go very slow if I'm not sure about a new location (pavement dip). Guess that answeres my question! Colby |
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Sunbeam
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| colbysmith wrote: | | Hm...all this talk about the wedge... I trailer my c-22 with the Merc 115 all the way down. I still have plenty of clearance..... Is there any problems doing it this way? |
Does the Mercury manual for your specific motor discuss trailering?. The manuals for both of my engines (Yamaha 80 and Honda 8 ) say that the preferred way to trailer is with the motor down in the running position if you have the clearance. Of course that doesn't mean they all say that, but at least two do.
I have enough clearance on the Honda 8 to trailer with it down (and I could lift it temporarily if I just had to traverse a really steep driveway/transition); but on the Yamaha there is no way I could trailer with it in the down position without dragging it on the pavement. I guess your boat must sit higher up on its trailer? (presuming the engine is mounted the same in regards to the transom/prop height).
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colbysmith
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, I do have the manuals, and they recommend motor down. And yes, my trailer does have the boat sit high. (I still have no problem at most boat launches, but did run into a tough time in Dubuque on the Mississippi this year during the C-Dory get together in September. However, the river was very low.) The boat is in storage now, but I believe I had about a foot of clearance on the bottom of the skag. And the trailer wheels are fairly far back. Colby |
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Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW: Roller trailers will situate the boat higher than bunk trailers and will have more clearance under the skeg(s).
Joe. |
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colbysmith
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| Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, I have a bunk trailer. |
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Will-C
Joined: 21 Aug 2007
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City/Region: Temple
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: trailering with tilt lock lever |
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We just used a carpeted piece of 2x4 with dimples drilled into the wood that fit the protrustions on our Yamaha outboard and tilt the motor down on it. Pictures in Will-C's album in a sub album titled trailer modifications. We have a pretty serious lag bolt going into the end of the 2x4 through a link of chain holding a piece of heavy cord connected to a clip that is attached to a stainless steel eye on our generator bracket to prevent one of our fellow motorists from wearing the 2x4 on their windshield if it should ever fall out. We have about 20k worth road miles of trailering the boat so far with no problems. Pretty simple to do. Cheaper than dirt. 
D.D.
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Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: trailering with tilt lock lever |
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| Will-C wrote: | We just used a carpeted piece of 2x4 with dimples drilled into the wood that fit the protrustions on our Yamaha outboard and tilt the motor down on it. Pictures in Will-C's album in a sub album titled trailer modifications. We have a pretty serious lag bolt going into the end of the 2x4 through a link of chain holding a piece of heavy cord connected to a clip that is attached to a stainless steel eye on our generator bracket to prevent one of our fellow motorists from wearing the 2x4 on their windshield if it should ever fall out. We have about 20k worth road miles of trailering the boat so far with no problems. Pretty simple to do. Cheaper than dirt.
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