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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject: Wallas fuel Reply with quote

From what I have read on this site, deasil gives out a higher heat btu than kerosene on the Wallas. I presently use kerosene (no problems), if I switch to deasil, do you think I can just run down the kerosene to low and then top up with deasil, or do I need to flush the system clean before switching to deasil? If I need to flush, what is the procedure?

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:14 am    Post subject: wallas stove Reply with quote

I talked with the Wallas guys at the boat show. You can switch and not worry about cleaning out before you use diesel or vis- a - versa. I do not know about which give out more BTU's.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIESEL
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For colder climates, regular diesel gets some kerosene mixed in... you shouldn't have any issue putting diesel in there with the kerosene.

We are still using Kleen Heat with our Wallas. Picked up two more containers before we left home. You can store it, easy to carry, and it doesn't smell (much).

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Fuel Reply with quote

Please be careful about posting fuel comments! This string of posts says nothing about what kind of Wallas device you are discussing.

Wallas builds two kinds of devices - those that burn diesel and those that burn kerosene. Burning kerosene in a diesel product will usually do no harm to the device. Burning diesel in a kerosene device WILL damage it very quickly.

Best advice: Burn diesel in diesel devices and burn kerosene in kerosene devices.

One last point: Diesel #1 and kerosene are NOT the same thing!

Thanks for using Wallas!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used Kleen Heat for 9 years with no problems.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel Reply with quote

macmac wrote:
Please be careful about posting fuel comments! This string of posts says nothing about what kind of Wallas device you are discussing.


Good point Doug, thanks for the reminder.

However, with the boat being a 2009 Cruiser - I don't think there's much chance of it being anything other than a diesel unless the owner installed something non-standard himself. To my knowledge, only Wallas DU diesel units have been factory installed in C-Dorys.

I'm sure somebody will be along shortly to correct the above if I'm mistaken...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:58 pm    Post subject: Wallas fuel Reply with quote

Yes, you are right Doug. I should have mentioned in my original post that my Wallas is the 85DU model and my manual says to use Diesel or Kerosene. My question was, can I mix the two if I want to change from one fuel to the other? Or do I have to empty the tank, flush the system, before changing to another fuel type? I presently use Kerosene and everything is working fine. But I have read reports that Diesel gives out a higher heat. Of course, my cautious nature says don't change anything if it's working fine!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: C-Dory stoves Reply with quote

C-Dory did install some model 800/220 stoves. These were intended only for use with kerosene. Diesel will take them out in short order!

Just remember; If your stove has a "D" in it's name, it burns diesel. If it doesn't, it burns kerosene.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Changeover Reply with quote

Martin:

Sorry for the late reply! You can mix fuels (kerosene, Klean Heet, diesel #1 or #2) in your tank to change from kerosene or Klean Heat to diesel without emptying the tank, IF it is a diesel Wallas product (95D, 85D, 86D, 87D, 3000D, 3000Dx, 30D, 40D, 22Dt, 30Dt or 40Dt). This assumes the fuels are clean and within their age limits.

Wallas now specifies the use of diesel fuel in all of their products with a "D" designation.

Thanks for using Wallas!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

useful reference
http://www.scanmarineusa.com/techtalk_FuelCommentsJuly2011.pdf

more tips at

http://www.scanmarineusa.com/techtalk.html

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Doug,

I'm sure I speak for many when I say how grateful I am for your input on this board.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me see if I can resurrect this old thread.

The installer of my Wallas heater/stove filled the fuel tank with "Kerosene K-1" from Ace Hardware. It is also available from Home Depot. It works great, doesn't smell and seems to last almost FOREVER! It is very expensive compared to diesel fuel: >$10.00/gal. compared to <$2.00/gal. It uses so little that I hate to quibble about price, but saving a buck or two here and there is always a good thing! My question is: What could be the down side of using diesel instead of K-1? Smell, performance, required maintenance, other?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rain wrote:
Let me see if I can resurrect this old thread.

. . . What could be the down side of using diesel instead of K-1? Smell, performance, required maintenance, other?


I believe the downside might be the ruination of your heater/stove. What model of Wallas do you have? If what you have is a Kerosene ("Paraffin") burner, it won't do well with diesel. Check with the folks at Scan Marine before you try it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been wondering what "paraffin" was. I guess it's kerosene, paraffin in England English. Petrol is gasoline over there.

Thanks for clearing that us. I've been reading/rereading Hiscock's Cruising Under Sail and he uses the therm "paraffin'.

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