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bridma
Joined: 13 Sep 2011 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Comox
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:50 pm Post subject: Wallas fuel |
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From what I have read on this site, deasil gives out a higher heat btu than kerosene on the Wallas. I presently use kerosene (no problems), if I switch to deasil, do you think I can just run down the kerosene to low and then top up with deasil, or do I need to flush the system clean before switching to deasil? If I need to flush, what is the procedure?
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SPrice
Joined: 29 Dec 2011 Posts: 44 City/Region: Camano Island
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:14 am Post subject: wallas stove |
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I talked with the Wallas guys at the boat show. You can switch and not worry about cleaning out before you use diesel or vis- a - versa. I do not know about which give out more BTU's. _________________ SPrice |
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KevinDU
Joined: 10 Dec 2010 Posts: 89
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:39 am Post subject: |
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DIESEL |
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 7481 City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:35 am Post subject: |
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For colder climates, regular diesel gets some kerosene mixed in... you shouldn't have any issue putting diesel in there with the kerosene.
We are still using Kleen Heat with our Wallas. Picked up two more containers before we left home. You can store it, easy to carry, and it doesn't smell (much). _________________ Jim & Joan
CD-25 "Wild Blue" (sold August 2014)
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macmac
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 48 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:22 am Post subject: Fuel |
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Please be careful about posting fuel comments! This string of posts says nothing about what kind of Wallas device you are discussing.
Wallas builds two kinds of devices - those that burn diesel and those that burn kerosene. Burning kerosene in a diesel product will usually do no harm to the device. Burning diesel in a kerosene device WILL damage it very quickly.
Best advice: Burn diesel in diesel devices and burn kerosene in kerosene devices.
One last point: Diesel #1 and kerosene are NOT the same thing!
Thanks for using Wallas!
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Chuckpacific
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:29 am Post subject: |
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I've used Kleen Heat for 9 years with no problems. _________________ There’s only one success – to be able to spend your life in your own way.
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Da Nag
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel |
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macmac wrote: | Please be careful about posting fuel comments! This string of posts says nothing about what kind of Wallas device you are discussing. |
Good point Doug, thanks for the reminder.
However, with the boat being a 2009 Cruiser - I don't think there's much chance of it being anything other than a diesel unless the owner installed something non-standard himself. To my knowledge, only Wallas DU diesel units have been factory installed in C-Dorys.
I'm sure somebody will be along shortly to correct the above if I'm mistaken... _________________
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bridma
Joined: 13 Sep 2011 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Comox
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:58 pm Post subject: Wallas fuel |
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Yes, you are right Doug. I should have mentioned in my original post that my Wallas is the 85DU model and my manual says to use Diesel or Kerosene. My question was, can I mix the two if I want to change from one fuel to the other? Or do I have to empty the tank, flush the system, before changing to another fuel type? I presently use Kerosene and everything is working fine. But I have read reports that Diesel gives out a higher heat. Of course, my cautious nature says don't change anything if it's working fine!
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macmac
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 48 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:23 pm Post subject: C-Dory stoves |
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C-Dory did install some model 800/220 stoves. These were intended only for use with kerosene. Diesel will take them out in short order!
Just remember; If your stove has a "D" in it's name, it burns diesel. If it doesn't, it burns kerosene.
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macmac
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 48 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: Changeover |
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Martin:
Sorry for the late reply! You can mix fuels (kerosene, Klean Heet, diesel #1 or #2) in your tank to change from kerosene or Klean Heat to diesel without emptying the tank, IF it is a diesel Wallas product (95D, 85D, 86D, 87D, 3000D, 3000Dx, 30D, 40D, 22Dt, 30Dt or 40Dt). This assumes the fuels are clean and within their age limits.
Wallas now specifies the use of diesel fuel in all of their products with a "D" designation.
Thanks for using Wallas!
Doug at Scan. |
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BrentB
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Adeline
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Thanks for that Doug,
I'm sure I speak for many when I say how grateful I am for your input on this board. _________________ Pete
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Rain
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Let me see if I can resurrect this old thread.
The installer of my Wallas heater/stove filled the fuel tank with "Kerosene K-1" from Ace Hardware. It is also available from Home Depot. It works great, doesn't smell and seems to last almost FOREVER! It is very expensive compared to diesel fuel: >$10.00/gal. compared to <$2.00/gal. It uses so little that I hate to quibble about price, but saving a buck or two here and there is always a good thing! My question is: What could be the down side of using diesel instead of K-1? Smell, performance, required maintenance, other? _________________ "I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."
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NORO LIM
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 887 City/Region: Olympia
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Rain wrote: | Let me see if I can resurrect this old thread.
. . . What could be the down side of using diesel instead of K-1? Smell, performance, required maintenance, other? |
I believe the downside might be the ruination of your heater/stove. What model of Wallas do you have? If what you have is a Kerosene ("Paraffin") burner, it won't do well with diesel. Check with the folks at Scan Marine before you try it. _________________ Bill, Formerly on NORO LIM
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I've been wondering what "paraffin" was. I guess it's kerosene, paraffin in England English. Petrol is gasoline over there.
Thanks for clearing that us. I've been reading/rereading Hiscock's Cruising Under Sail and he uses the therm "paraffin'.
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