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brownbear



Joined: 18 Jul 2011
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City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: 1981 classic C-dory 22 foot flat-bottom. Reply with quote

My helm gearbox bound-up and broke the pot-metal casing and I need to replace with another of what I believe is the original though it shows no manufacturer's mark except: 309301 DR(space)RSY C-290 M7382
Teleflex makes something similar and is available at WEST MARINE.
Does someone know what I should use? I power with an E-TecH Evinrude 90 HP. Thanks, Brownbear

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Catch 22



Joined: 01 May 2008
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City/Region: Lynnwood
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C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the teleflex no feedback system. It works really well and was easy to install. I run a 90 johnson...
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Wandering Sagebrush



Joined: 21 Jan 2005
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City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now would be a good time to install a hydraulic steering system. The Teleflex NFB systems are less expensive, but I tired quickly of them seizing up every season.
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Catch 22



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mine has not locked up ever, where does it get sticky, I'll have to keep an eye on mine...
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Wandering Sagebrush



Joined: 21 Jan 2005
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catch 22 wrote:
mine has not locked up ever, where does it get sticky, I'll have to keep an eye on mine...


Teleflex recommends that you pull the cable from the tilt tube, clean and lube it on an annual basis. I didn't do that in the beginning, but even after I started the preventive maintenance, it would seize after 6 or 7 months. I went to hydraulic.

On edit: It gets sticky at the engine tilt tube. Maybe stuck is a better description.
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brownbear



Joined: 18 Jul 2011
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City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all for responding to my needs--I must now make a decision--manual or hydraulic? I will call West Marine for detail specs--though model: 275784 Safe-T Rotary Helm for $132.99 seems right as a replacement but will ask first. Eaglebrownbear
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brownbear



Joined: 18 Jul 2011
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City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:38 am    Post subject: classic c-dory helm Reply with quote

Thanks Thomas Elliott. I'll call you if I can use your old helm--I may not need cables. eaglebrownbear
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Jack in Alaska



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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City/Region: Anchorage/Ninilchik
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C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 26 Pro Angler
Vessel Name: HIGH TIDE II
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brownbear............

I would highly suggest not going cheap on steering. I also highly recommend switching to hydraulic. I did on my 83 Classic and it solved all of the yearly sticking problems as well as providing a magnitude better control of the boat.
I had to remove the engine to get the new steering into the tilt tube as there is not enough clearance between hole in the motor splash well and the tilt tube.
Think about losing your steering when out in rough seas many miles from port. Not a pretty thought.
Good luck.

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rogerbum



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an aside, I have thought about potentially losing steering many miles from port. While this doesn't address this particular question, there are a few ways to potentially deal with such an issue all of which involve manual steering. Obviously if one has a kicker, one can get the main(s) line up strait and use the kicker to steer. The other option is to lash/duct tape, a long handled object to the main and steer it manually (after disconnecting the stuck cable). I seem to remember someone on this board who did just that with a paddle and some duct tape. Anyway, it is something to consider.

One more thing, the cable steering tends to get stuck when it spends a long period of time without use. On my 22 I never had a problem as long as I was using the boat at least monthly all through the winter. However, if I let it sit for several months, that's when I had a problem. It's a good idea to go out in the winter months and turn the wheel a few times every couple of weeks to keep things loose. Also, and this is most important, check to make sure the steering is loose PRIOR to pushing off a dock at launch (especially that first launch of the year). It can be really difficult if you've pushed off the dock in tight quarters in a marina or at a launch and then realize you have no steering. I found this out the hard way but was lucky that the steering broke loose with lots of force from the wheel.

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T.R. Bauer



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C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you only knew the trouble I went through with my twin 45s and cable steering......It was hellish.
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C-Otter



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: C-Otter
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cable steering must be for fresh water only, mine is 25 years old, sits 6 months of the year and works like a charm. No salt ever. C-Otter
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brownbear



Joined: 18 Jul 2011
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City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good advise Jack-in-AK, As a matter of fact my steering gearbox casing (cast pot-metal) broke out just after running 3 foot whitecaps during the second-hour current and wind driven tide change--so I was lucky! No prior warnings either.
What exactly is the TILT-TUBE you mentioned? Juneau, brownbear
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Jack in Alaska



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brownbear..........

The tilt tube is the tube(pipe) that the motor hinges on and the steering goes though. In salt water that whole thing gets "munged up" and corrodes with out use. Turn the steering monthly several times to keep it free.
That removing the engine thing is only applicable to the pre 1987 flat bottom with the narrow splash well box.
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brownbear



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City/Region: Juneau
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C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:44 am    Post subject: more on steering system Reply with quote

Thanks, Jackinalaska, hadn't the opportunity before to know the correct name for this particular part. brownbear
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