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brownbear
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 7 City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:54 pm Post subject: 1981 classic C-dory 22 foot flat-bottom. |
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My helm gearbox bound-up and broke the pot-metal casing and I need to replace with another of what I believe is the original though it shows no manufacturer's mark except: 309301 DR(space)RSY C-290 M7382
Teleflex makes something similar and is available at WEST MARINE.
Does someone know what I should use? I power with an E-TecH Evinrude 90 HP. Thanks, Brownbear _________________ eaglebrownbear |
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Catch 22
Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 385 City/Region: Lynnwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Catch 22
Photos: Catch 22
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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I used the teleflex no feedback system. It works really well and was easy to install. I run a 90 johnson... _________________ Kevin Richards - Catch 22 |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2783 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
Photos: Constant Craving
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Now would be a good time to install a hydraulic steering system. The Teleflex NFB systems are less expensive, but I tired quickly of them seizing up every season. _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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Catch 22
Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 385 City/Region: Lynnwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Catch 22
Photos: Catch 22
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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mine has not locked up ever, where does it get sticky, I'll have to keep an eye on mine... |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2783 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
Photos: Constant Craving
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Catch 22 wrote: | mine has not locked up ever, where does it get sticky, I'll have to keep an eye on mine... |
Teleflex recommends that you pull the cable from the tilt tube, clean and lube it on an annual basis. I didn't do that in the beginning, but even after I started the preventive maintenance, it would seize after 6 or 7 months. I went to hydraulic.
On edit: It gets sticky at the engine tilt tube. Maybe stuck is a better description. |
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brownbear
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 7 City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Thanks to all for responding to my needs--I must now make a decision--manual or hydraulic? I will call West Marine for detail specs--though model: 275784 Safe-T Rotary Helm for $132.99 seems right as a replacement but will ask first. Eaglebrownbear |
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brownbear
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 7 City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:38 am Post subject: classic c-dory helm |
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Thanks Thomas Elliott. I'll call you if I can use your old helm--I may not need cables. eaglebrownbear |
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Jack in Alaska
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1191 City/Region: Anchorage/Ninilchik
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 26 Pro Angler
Vessel Name: HIGH TIDE II
Photos: HIGH TIDE II
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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brownbear............
I would highly suggest not going cheap on steering. I also highly recommend switching to hydraulic. I did on my 83 Classic and it solved all of the yearly sticking problems as well as providing a magnitude better control of the boat.
I had to remove the engine to get the new steering into the tilt tube as there is not enough clearance between hole in the motor splash well and the tilt tube.
Think about losing your steering when out in rough seas many miles from port. Not a pretty thought.
Good luck. _________________ On the HIGH TIDE-II, wife Carolyn and I.....Another summer fishing on the HIGH TIDE II in the Cook Inlet at Cape Ninilchik, Alaska.
HIGH TIDE-II; 2005 26' ProAngler; 2003 200 Honda / 2009 9.9 Honda high thrust
No. CD026021I405; AK-5008-AK
MSSI No. 338143486(cancelled)
HIGH TIDE; 1983 Angler Classic 22'; 90 Honda/ 9.9 Tohatsu-sold 2009 to son Dan (flatfishfool)
Stolen & stripped in Aug. 18
Bare hull & trailer sold in Nov. |
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5927 City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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As an aside, I have thought about potentially losing steering many miles from port. While this doesn't address this particular question, there are a few ways to potentially deal with such an issue all of which involve manual steering. Obviously if one has a kicker, one can get the main(s) line up strait and use the kicker to steer. The other option is to lash/duct tape, a long handled object to the main and steer it manually (after disconnecting the stuck cable). I seem to remember someone on this board who did just that with a paddle and some duct tape. Anyway, it is something to consider.
One more thing, the cable steering tends to get stuck when it spends a long period of time without use. On my 22 I never had a problem as long as I was using the boat at least monthly all through the winter. However, if I let it sit for several months, that's when I had a problem. It's a good idea to go out in the winter months and turn the wheel a few times every couple of weeks to keep things loose. Also, and this is most important, check to make sure the steering is loose PRIOR to pushing off a dock at launch (especially that first launch of the year). It can be really difficult if you've pushed off the dock in tight quarters in a marina or at a launch and then realize you have no steering. I found this out the hard way but was lucky that the steering broke loose with lots of force from the wheel. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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If you only knew the trouble I went through with my twin 45s and cable steering......It was hellish. |
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C-Otter
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 211 City/Region: Superior
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: C-Otter
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Cable steering must be for fresh water only, mine is 25 years old, sits 6 months of the year and works like a charm. No salt ever. C-Otter |
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brownbear
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 7 City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Good advise Jack-in-AK, As a matter of fact my steering gearbox casing (cast pot-metal) broke out just after running 3 foot whitecaps during the second-hour current and wind driven tide change--so I was lucky! No prior warnings either.
What exactly is the TILT-TUBE you mentioned? Juneau, brownbear |
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Jack in Alaska
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1191 City/Region: Anchorage/Ninilchik
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 26 Pro Angler
Vessel Name: HIGH TIDE II
Photos: HIGH TIDE II
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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brownbear..........
The tilt tube is the tube(pipe) that the motor hinges on and the steering goes though. In salt water that whole thing gets "munged up" and corrodes with out use. Turn the steering monthly several times to keep it free.
That removing the engine thing is only applicable to the pre 1987 flat bottom with the narrow splash well box. |
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brownbear
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 7 City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: thistle 2
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:44 am Post subject: more on steering system |
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Thanks, Jackinalaska, hadn't the opportunity before to know the correct name for this particular part. brownbear |
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