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Tad and Toby Jackson
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject: Honda generator fuel line for remote tank |
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I have been searching the forums for information that I had seen recently, but cannot find it. I am looking for a fuel line that is made for Honda generators that will allow me to connect the generator to a remote fuel tank. We use the generator a lot in the late spring and summer for air conditioning and it would be nice not to have to refill the generator in the middle of the night. Has anyone know of a link to that piece of equipment?
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jhwilson
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Tad-
Try this:
Extended Run Generator System
We just discussed this a month or two ago, which is not your problem, but 85% of our technical discussions are repeats, due to the difficulties encountered in searching for topics.
Too bad we can build and refine on existing discussion threads, instead of starting all over every few months!
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
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jstripe
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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VM Sales & Mfg. in Texas make the "Original EZ Flow Generator Fuel System"for Honda generators. The sell a 3 or 6 gallon model or you can just buy the hose and connector package and make you own out of an existing marine fuel tank.
http://www.vmsales.com/New_Images___Text_Layout_1.html
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thataway
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Those look a bit pricey--you can buy or find old fuel tanks and then buy a second cap or one of the converter caps for the generators for much less. The system is basically a siphon system, with valves in the llines. A few threaded fittings and hose barbs, etc.
Interesting that the 3 and 6 gallon tanks/systems are the same price. _________________ Bob Austin
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:29 am Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: | The system is basically a siphon system, with valves in the llines. A few threaded fittings and hose barbs, etc. |
Bob, note that they specifically say their system is not a siphon.
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Tad and Toby Jackson
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Everyone for you rapid replies. I will start to search the sites and find out the best value.
Tad |
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Will-C
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: Honda generator fuel line for remote tank |
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Hi,
I have a pretty new Honda EU 2000 and we just spent Sunday night on the hook in Little Egg Harbor New Jersey (not that that matters) I started the generator at 8:30 pm connected via my shorepower cord to my boats shore power setup, turned on my outlets and battery charger, I checked emails, a little later turned on my sleep machine (sleep apnea) and turned on my anchor light and I didn't run out of gas until 5:30 am set on econo setting. Nine hours on the generator's tank. I use a super siphon (Bass Pro Shops) just giggle the one end in the gas container and it automatically starts siphoning no lips needed (hot setup) and down loaded a little more gas in the generator for the morning coffee. Just pulling the end out of the gas supply stops the flow. I'm thinking if I go to bed a little later I'd be all set including morning coffee. I like to carry a spare 5 gallon gas container when out and about. This way I can use it for anything maybe helping others etc. Some of those extended run tanks would be hard to pour out of if you needed the gas for another purpose. Just my opinion here. I have a Wise extended run tank and never use it.
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Go over the the Yahoo Group on these generators - more info than you'll need over there - including sources for cheaper caps & etc to build your own extended run tank.
If you use this puppy for A/C at night, you've gotta either have an extended run tank, or sleep less than 6 hours (more like 4.5). _________________ Dave W.
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Will-C
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: Honda generator fuel line for remote tank |
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Toyman,
My bad I missed the air conditioning piece I get up around three oclock for other reasons. I would tap off my fuel water seperator but I think I would need to remove my anti siphon valve from whatever tank I was pulling from to do that. I guess if I use air conditioning I'll have to go to bed later yet to avoid refueling.
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thataway
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dave, If you are thinking of pulling the fuel from a on board C Dory tank--it will not work.
Warren. The way the system works is that there is a vacuum formed in the Honda generator tank, as the fuel runs by gravity to the carburator which is close to the bottom of the case. The "extra" fuel comes over from the tank, pulled by this vacuum. If the auxillary tank is lower by 6" than the generator tank, it most likely will not work. If the tank is higher by 6" that is fine, but I would not want it much higher. Remember that you are pulling fuel from the bottom of the extra tank--and that is aaround 6" below the top of the tank. Not not truely a siphon--but the same principle--the tank must be close to the level of the fuel tank in the Honda. I say that it technically is a siphon because the ultimate source of the use of the fuel (the carburator) is lower than the fuel tank and there is a closed system of fuel.
The EU 2000 will not run a 8300 BTU air conditioner all night without an auxillary tank--I have too many nights aboard to prove that--and that is why we went with an auxillary 6 gallon tank early in the game. We carry extra gas for both the generator (no oil) and for the outboard (2 stroke requires oil addition). I would not try and pour from a 6 gallon outboard tank--but you can use the squeeze bulb to transfer small amounts of fuel. |
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