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serenitymay1995
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 89 City/Region: Cumberland
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Gumption
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: siezed windows |
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our new used 22 cruiser has sat for over a year before we got her. the windows are seized up tight and i have applied some silicone to the track and the rubber seal and still no movement. should i pry the rubber seal open or ? |
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 7481 City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
Photos: Wild Blue
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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It's likely that they were closed while they still had some salt on 'em. Before you pry anything, try this: put ample amounts of warm fresh water all around the window, especially along the track. Then try opening the window with TWO people: one on the inside (holding the latch open and pulling) and one on the outside, pushing back on the window. When our windows have stuck shut, this has always worked for us. Then, clean the tracks, move the window and clean in front and behind it. When the fuzzy stuff in the track dries, get some Liquid Rollers and spray it liberally in the tracks and "work it" back and forth.
I have read on here that some have widened the widow tracks slightly, but the chance of leakage concerns me with that.
Hope that helps - keep us posted.
Best wishes,
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
Photos: Captain's Cat
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Used to happen to me all the time on Capt's Choice. I kept a small, nubby flat screwdriver at the helm and when they stuck, held the latch open with one hand and put the blade between the latch and the window casing and pried (gently). Worked every time. When you do get it open, use liquid rollers or silicone or the like on the tracks.
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
Captain's Kitten (1995 CD 16 Angler- Sold June 2010)
Captain's Choice (1994 CD 22 Cruiser- Sold Jun 2007)
Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
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serenitymay1995
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 89 City/Region: Cumberland
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Gumption
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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thanks guys i will try both options suggested. once they are freed up i will use silicone frequently. heading up to quatsino sound for early halibut march 29 - april 1. |
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westward
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 718 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Steady Eddy
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Another suggestion: take a 4-6" flexible blade drywall knife(trowel) and carefully work it down with a gentle side to side rocking pressure between the exterior glass and the grey fuzzy liner material, along the entire bottom length of the opening window. Likely the inside is OK and that crap has formed in the outside crevice and bonded the window shut. Once it's moving you can clean the crevice out with running water and a toothbrush or other small crevice brush. Make sure the weep holes in the aluminum extrusion are clean and confirm that water flows through them. don't apply lubricant until the gasket material is completely clean and dry. Don't use a heat gun to dry the gasket material; let it air dry. Good luck! Mike. |
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DaveS
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 3204 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Shift
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
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westward wrote: | let it air dry. Good luck! Mike. |
In the Pacific Northwest?.....  _________________ Dave S.
"Sea Shift"
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smittypaddler
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 337 City/Region: Neenah, Wisconsin
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Na Waqa
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: simple suggestion |
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This may be too simple, but on my 22-cruiser, I have to push the window slightly forward before it will unlatch and open. If yours work similarly, it may not be obvious if you've never tried to open the windows. |
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cemiii
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 419 City/Region: Alamo
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: The Last One........ III
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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i've found on my old 87 that pushing up and back on the sliding portion with flat hands seems to raise the window and loosen the resistance in the lower track. once it's open a bit lift on the open side, flat on the other to open. once open, you can work on cleaning out the track.
i had to replace a driver side cracked window and found that plastic bottom runner pretty much uv'd to death, very brittle. replaced with "L" aluminum mirror frame from the glass co. needed two layers, but
works great. |
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serenitymay1995
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 89 City/Region: Cumberland
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Gumption
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: |
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we got the windows sliding again, washed out the track and scrubbed it with hot water and dish soap then slid a small scraper between the inner rubber and the window. had to push handle forwards to realease the latch, will lube her up good after it all dries. sometime in august it only rains twice a year here. once for 5 months and once for 6 months thanks for the help. |
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serenitymay1995
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 89 City/Region: Cumberland
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Gumption
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:41 am Post subject: |
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we got the windows sliding again, washed out the track and scrubbed it with hot water and dish soap then slid a small scraper between the inner rubber and the window. had to push handle forwards to realease the latch, will lube her up good after it all dries. sometime in august it only rains twice a year here. once for 5 months and once for 6 months thanks for the help. |
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timflan
Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 546 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Two Lucky Fish +1
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matt_unique
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 1881 City/Region: Boston
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C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Window |
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My starboard side Captains window has been seized since I owned it. I finally got around to fixing it today. I sprayed WD-40 around the seams (top and bottom), used a screw driver to carefully pry the rubber away from the window (basically to jostle it a bit), and it opened right up. It now moves easier than the rest of my windows. Next time out I will shoot a little WD-40 around all of them and open/close them several times to work it in.
So...the advice given by others above works! _________________ Captain Matt
Former owner of Napoleon (Tomcat) Hull #65 w/Counter Rotating Suzuki 150's. |
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Dora~Jean
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 1515 City/Region: Simi Valley
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Matt,
Many of us are now using Liquid Rollers available at WM for our window slides, haven't tried it yet but the reports are glowing. _________________ Steve & Carmen
"Great works are performed not by strength, but perseverance" (Samuel Johnson)
Dora~Jean C-Dory 25 2002-Present
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Alasgun Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Siezed WIndow |
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Id be a little leary of using the WD40 as it has an affinity to"creep". In time it will find it's way out the drains and down the side of you cabin! Along the way it will be a dirt magnet that may make the problem worse in time.
Stick with the afore mentioned lubes which will dry and you will be better off.
Mike |
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Lucky Day
Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 215 City/Region: Churchton
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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I've used Liquid Rollers on all the sliding windows. It works great. I applied two months ago and all the windows are still sliding like they should. |
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