Perhaps it is bad taste to disseminate this but it's about safety too.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... orror.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... orror.html
Nasty accident
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matt_unique
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What a horrible accident.
It appears he was abeam to the seas causing that roll....wow what a tragedy.
It appears he was abeam to the seas causing that roll....wow what a tragedy.
Wow -- that's horrible. It's that kind of situation that worries me - especially when I will have family on board.
Would one of you highly seasoned skippers please start a thread on how to handle rough seas? Of course we all know not to go out in rough seas, but at some point we are all going to be surprised on a calm day.
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mike
Would one of you highly seasoned skippers please start a thread on how to handle rough seas? Of course we all know not to go out in rough seas, but at some point we are all going to be surprised on a calm day.
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mike
Seems to be a working link here: http://news1.capitalbay.com/news/florid ... ossed.html
Something seems amiss. 7 foot swells in the relatively calm seas depicted -- even going through a harbor bar -- ought not to make a 51' boat pitch this way. May be the high center of gravity on the boat (unlike the C-Dory). And, while the boat appeared to right itself, the operator was already in the water. If the photos are accurate, he wasn't wearing a PFD. Most boating fatalities -- by far -- are due to drowning, not boat failure. This is a reminder to all of us to wear those PFDs, even on nice days. Best wishes to his family. What a tragedy.
On Edit: monster swells seemed to roll the boat while going over the harbor bar. He was bounced right off the boat. But, he was up high on a flybridge -- so the pitch was accelerated; and the bridge was open -- so he was essentually flung off the boat. With his injuries, including a broken neck, a PFD may not have helped (though it very well may have made the difference). The boat responded as it was designed to do -- it rolled and righted itself after the wave energy passed below it. It did not capsize. A C-Dory in similar waves would probably do the same thing -- the difference being that the operator would be much lower to the water and therefore experiencing a severe pitch but not an slingshot type acceleration -- and when the C-Dory operator lands he/she is still in the pilot house. Of course... a 7 foot breaking wave is a very different story. More facts will probably emerge.
Something seems amiss. 7 foot swells in the relatively calm seas depicted -- even going through a harbor bar -- ought not to make a 51' boat pitch this way. May be the high center of gravity on the boat (unlike the C-Dory). And, while the boat appeared to right itself, the operator was already in the water. If the photos are accurate, he wasn't wearing a PFD. Most boating fatalities -- by far -- are due to drowning, not boat failure. This is a reminder to all of us to wear those PFDs, even on nice days. Best wishes to his family. What a tragedy.
On Edit: monster swells seemed to roll the boat while going over the harbor bar. He was bounced right off the boat. But, he was up high on a flybridge -- so the pitch was accelerated; and the bridge was open -- so he was essentually flung off the boat. With his injuries, including a broken neck, a PFD may not have helped (though it very well may have made the difference). The boat responded as it was designed to do -- it rolled and righted itself after the wave energy passed below it. It did not capsize. A C-Dory in similar waves would probably do the same thing -- the difference being that the operator would be much lower to the water and therefore experiencing a severe pitch but not an slingshot type acceleration -- and when the C-Dory operator lands he/she is still in the pilot house. Of course... a 7 foot breaking wave is a very different story. More facts will probably emerge.
starcrafttom
Active member
after reading the statments by the other captains and the mate it seems that the conditons where managable and common for the area. if he had just headed into the waves he would have been fine. as the one captain said i wonder if he did not have other health problems at the time? maybe a heart attack or stroke that caused him to turn side ways?
Matt Gurnsey
New member
That doesn't look like bad enough water to throw the captain overboard. The boat looks more than capable of handling the seas it is in. I wonder if the captain tried to execute a turn for some reason? Very weird and tragic.
Sea Wolf":ncsxwnol said:
Joe, after doing a Google Search for "Thomas Henry Jupiter, Florida" I found numerous listings of news outlets that carried the story and interviewed friends and witnesses.
We "boaters" here in Florida all know of the reputation of Jupiter Inlet. No one wants to use it unless they have perfect conditions. That would mean no wind and no tide.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/f...-died-after-being-900169.html?cxtype=rss_news
Terrible accident.
Robbi
Terrible accident.
Robbi
Shiawassee
New member
The incident occurred September 3rd. According to Florida boating forums, Jupiter Inlet is one of those channels where local knowledge is absolutely required and even then it will bite you unexpectedly.
Below is a long URL to the original story.
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_n_p ... after-fall
Below is a long URL to the original story.
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_n_p ... after-fall
From the photo showing the boat cresting the wave prior to broaching I wonder if when he crested the bow dipped and dug in while the stern was enough out of the water to prevent being able to turn or power up and stop broach. On the day we tried to round Cape Ommaney on our resent Alaska cruise two very experienced Charter Captains broached there boats at the same time coming back around the Cape in very similar conditions to this accident. This had never happened to either one of them before either. Both said their boats just wouldn't respond to control input and ended up doing 180's.
Jay
Jay
patrick and linda
New member
terrible accident but no matter what you are doing or where you might be, when your number is up, it's all over. all the more reason to start doing what is fun and enjoyable. when i was a young man just twenty, and in the military a good friend of mine just returned back to the states from a 13 month tour in vietnam. survived much nasty stuff. we had just gotten of midnight duty and decided to get some beer and head for the beach. we got in the water and a rip tide carried my friend out and he drowned. go figure, just a normal enjoyable evening out!
life is short and unpredictable.
pat
life is short and unpredictable.
pat
hardee":370dl9ne said:
Yea, I agree with you Harvey, watered down beer tastes really bad.
Sorry Harvey, couldn't resist. :roll: As I've aged, my mixing of beer and water (in the context you are referring to), has changed considerably from when I was a young paratrooper and later as a young college student and young "biker".
Pat, my condolences to you in the loss of a close friend who served our country. Obviously, this is an impact that will always be with you.
patrick and linda
New member
hi dave and harvey,
yeah, something like that never leaves you. granted water and beer is not a good mix, must understand, when you're 20 and in the military, risk is no big deal, unfortunately, outcomes are!
regarding my post, it's a numbers game and when your number is up, games over.
have a great day!
pat
yeah, something like that never leaves you. granted water and beer is not a good mix, must understand, when you're 20 and in the military, risk is no big deal, unfortunately, outcomes are!
regarding my post, it's a numbers game and when your number is up, games over.
have a great day!
pat
I've been at that inlet a couple of times in my 16 ft Alumaweld. The first time was nice weather but too rough for my wife. The second time I was my myself it was nice weather too. The waves were pretty big for my little boat. I thought if I went out to deeper water, it would smooth out. It never did, I couldn't see over the waves, short wave length, not very pleasant or safe. I got out about 3/4 of a mile and came back in.