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with many years of mechanic experience under my belt, I would have to say......yes........Pat, you are the only one in the history of hardware to have this problem :) an impact gun would rip that bugger right off there. As mentioned, you could disect the bearings and take the whole wheel and drum into Schwabs
 
Pat Anderson":3nr6hhaj said:
<stuff clipped> I just have to wonder, are we the only people in America that this has happened to? It seems inconceivable...How would the women and children in Alaska deal with this situation??
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First, they'd get up at 4AM in the morning after a previous 15 hr work day (and perhaps 3 hours of heavy drinking the night before).

Second, they'd stalk a polar bear, run it down in their bare feet and kill it with a pocket knife and claw hammer. They'd cut the liver out and squeeze the oil out of it into a pan that they made from metal they mined themselves earlier in the week.

Third, they'd apply the oil to the lug nut.

Fourth, they' open up another beer or bottle of whiskey.

Fifth, they'd put a big breaker bar on the wrench and tie a rope to that that was hooked to the back end of the snow mobile. After another drink, they'd gun the snow mobile and break that lug nut free.

Sixth, they'd then mutter about how the weenies down in the lower 48 can't handle anything on their own.... :wink:
 
I like Mikes idea, stick your breaker bar on there so it contacts the ground and then drive off. If the stud doesn't break, or if the nut doesn't loosen up, you can just keep driving on down to Schwabs
 
This is getting better all the time.
I am somewhat ashamed of Roger though for failing to mention the striking beauty of the Alaskan Women.
No mud pies up here, It must be due to those 3 hours of heavy drinking after chores that gives them their edge!

Mike :smiled
 
Another approach, why not just leave the wheel on, pump it up, jack it up and slowly spin it to see if you can find the leak. Might be a nail or screw that you can pull and fix yourself with a good tire repair kit (rubber coated thread type work great). Then you can 'postpone' the nut thing till you get a BIGGER WRENCH... 8)
 
Pat, get a couple of cans of that flat fix stuff instead of using air. Should get you to Schwabs.

good luck

stevej
 
Pat Anderson":2g8mk5do said:
..How would the women and children in Alaska deal with this situation??



aA
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..boat gun and holster??
 
TyBoo":p711ycqx said:
Make sure you have your Safe Work Permit, Isolation Forms, Job Hazard Analysis, Hot Work Permit (if heating it up), all the proper Personal Protective Equipment, and when finished file the After Task Review Form. The SWP, ISO, JHA, HWP, PPE and ATR will add an hour to the ten minute job so you can charge 'em for lunch and go home a half hour early.
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TyBoo, you certainly brought back a lot of memories we'd forgotten about since we'd retired in 2005.....let's not forget the necessity of the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheets). These must be posted in a highly visible area. Also, any chemicals spilled are your responsibility from cradle to grave. Has your concrete or blacktop been sealed in order to prevent seepage of chemicals into the dirt underneath?

Pat, all kidding aside, do hope that you're able to get this lug nut situation taken care of in a timely matter.

Ruth and Joe/R-MATEY
 
OK, the (apparent) end of the story...last night we pumped the flat up as well as we could, this morning it still had some pressure, so we decided to drive it in to Les Schwab. Made it there just fine, I had to leave for work so I did not see how they did it, don't know if it was a big air impact wrench or a nut splitter, but they got it off, fixed the flat (a nail), removed and re-torqued all the other lug nuts, and sent Patty down the road, no charge...I now have a nice breaker bar, socket and 3' pipe handle extension for the next time...this has been a learning experience for sure. Not sure what exactly I learned except I probably should not drive in Alaska unless of course there are Alaskan women and children nearby.
 
Pat Anderson":3nax9xd3 said:
OK, the (apparent) end of the story...last night we pumped the flat up as well as we could, this morning it still had some pressure, so we decided to drive it in to Les Schwab. Made it there just fine, I had to leave for work so I did not see how they did it, don't know if it was a big air impact wrench or a nut splitter, but they got it off, fixed the flat (a nail), removed and re-torqued all the other lug nuts, and sent Patty down the road, no charge...I now have a nice breaker bar, socket and 3' pipe handle extension for the next time...this has been a learning experience for sure. Not sure what exactly I learned except I probably should not drive in Alaska unless of course there are Alaskan women and children nearby.
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. . . or . . . go by water and leave the nails in tires to others :teeth
 
memories we'd forgotten about since we'd retired in 2005.....
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It just keeps getting worse, Joe. In the past year, the pre-job paperwork has more than doubled. The sad part is the guys on the floor are doing it more now to stay out of trouble than to be safe. It's getting to where I need Lawyer Pat to follow me around so I don't break any rules.

I heard GP is shutting down the B'ham mill for good. About 200 souls out of work. If you know any real good millwrights, have them inquire about moving to Wauna. We're hiring a few. Especially young, strong and skinny ones who get get under the machines and lift the parts by themselves.
 
Whenever I've found a lug nut that can't be removed using conventional means,
I have always got them off using a breaker bar, sometimes with a piece of pipe put over the handle of the bar to extend it. That gives you tremendous leverage. Penetrating oil can't hurt either. I sure wouldn't go at it with a torch.
 
[/quote] I heard GP is shutting down the B'ham mill for good. About 200 souls out of work. If you know any real good millwrights, have them inquire about moving to Wauna. We're hiring a few. [/quote]

Yes, GP B'Ham mill is shutting down. Big headlines here the other day. Having had the experience of being through a couple of mill closures, sure is sad to read about another one. Good to know that there'll be some jobs available in your area.

Ruth and Joe/R-MATEY
 
Kent Richmond":tbspu10i said:
Whenever I've found a lug nut that can't be removed using conventional means,
I have always got them off using a breaker bar, sometimes with a piece of pipe put over the handle of the bar to extend it. That gives you tremendous leverage. Penetrating oil can't hurt either. I sure wouldn't go at it with a torch.
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3 pages to change 1 lug nut. This must be a U.S. Gov job :lol:
 
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