Fatty Knees Dinghy?
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I have no experience with dinghy's but I do know how to find stuff on the internet and so to that end....here is a link to the site that makes the "Fatty Knees".
http://www.fattyknees.com/index.html
I do however believe that weight is a major concern as to putting it on top of the boat...and in the case of the "Fatty" , I don't see any published weight, but she looks a bit heavy so I would assume you might be limited to keeping her in tow.
http://www.fattyknees.com/index.html
I do however believe that weight is a major concern as to putting it on top of the boat...and in the case of the "Fatty" , I don't see any published weight, but she looks a bit heavy so I would assume you might be limited to keeping her in tow.
From my experience with El Toros, a small 8 ft sailboat, I'd guess the Fatty Knees, would weigh from about 75-95 lbs, depending on the amount of materials in the lay-up and whether we talking about the 7, 8, or 9 ft model.
Can someone back there on the right coast give them a call and ask???
Joe.
Can someone back there on the right coast give them a call and ask???
Joe.
The 8' model weighs approimately 100 pounds. I realized after I posted my question that perhaps it is much more difficult to carry a hard dinghy than a soft dinghy on the cabin roof. Not sure though.
I have never owned a power boat as big as the C-Dory 22 I am purchasing. Always been a sailor and currently own a Nor'Sea 27. The Fatty Knees will work perfectly on my Nor'Sea but now that I think about it perhaps not so perfectly on the C-Dory.
Was thinking earlier today that perhaps the dinghy would pound the cabin roof too much when running at speed.
I reckon I am still thinking like a sailor... We consider 5 knots to be moving right along...
I have never owned a power boat as big as the C-Dory 22 I am purchasing. Always been a sailor and currently own a Nor'Sea 27. The Fatty Knees will work perfectly on my Nor'Sea but now that I think about it perhaps not so perfectly on the C-Dory.
Was thinking earlier today that perhaps the dinghy would pound the cabin roof too much when running at speed.
I reckon I am still thinking like a sailor... We consider 5 knots to be moving right along...
Al,
I have rowed an 8 ft Fatty Knees and is is a good rowing craft. However, I think its too big for a 22. Too heavy and too tall. You might be able to load it onto the roof without damage, but unless its firmly secured it may pound the roof and damage the C-Dory.
I think unloading and reloading the dingy at anchor would be almost impossible. Where would you stand to do that operation?
I have rowed an 8 ft Fatty Knees and is is a good rowing craft. However, I think its too big for a 22. Too heavy and too tall. You might be able to load it onto the roof without damage, but unless its firmly secured it may pound the roof and damage the C-Dory.
I think unloading and reloading the dingy at anchor would be almost impossible. Where would you stand to do that operation?
Have you taken a look at the Eastport Pram.
It is 7'-9" weight is appox. 60 lbs, and is designed to tow well. Here is the link:
http://www.clcboats.com/boats/eastportpram.php
I am just getting ready to build one. I will let you know how it turns it and what it is like to tow, and possibly stow.
It is 7'-9" weight is appox. 60 lbs, and is designed to tow well. Here is the link:
http://www.clcboats.com/boats/eastportpram.php
I am just getting ready to build one. I will let you know how it turns it and what it is like to tow, and possibly stow.
I looked at the Eastport Pram several years ago at the Annapolis sailboat show. It was absolutely beautiful!
On the other hand my lack of woodworking skill is only surpassed by my lack of woodworking tools.
All kidding aside the Eastport Pram deserves a second look, but I have been looking at the Fatty Knees dinghy for years and really like it.
On the other hand my lack of woodworking skill is only surpassed by my lack of woodworking tools.
All kidding aside the Eastport Pram deserves a second look, but I have been looking at the Fatty Knees dinghy for years and really like it.
Al:
I don't have any type of dingy yet, but have always liked the idea of a hard shell boat. Getting it up on the roof seems to be the down fall. How about making two "L" shaped brackets. These would clamp on the transom like a kicker but extend back from the stern a bit farther than the outboard. Just enough to allow the outboard to turn and tilt. These brackets would support one side of the pram. The otherside would rest on pads over the lazarettes. The pram would ride upside down over the outboard making for a very quiet engine cover. It would be fairly easy to load compared to getting it on the roof. To unload just flip over the stern. The C-Dory would be less top heavy and less affected by winds with the pram over the engine than roof top. What do you think?
I don't have any type of dingy yet, but have always liked the idea of a hard shell boat. Getting it up on the roof seems to be the down fall. How about making two "L" shaped brackets. These would clamp on the transom like a kicker but extend back from the stern a bit farther than the outboard. Just enough to allow the outboard to turn and tilt. These brackets would support one side of the pram. The otherside would rest on pads over the lazarettes. The pram would ride upside down over the outboard making for a very quiet engine cover. It would be fairly easy to load compared to getting it on the roof. To unload just flip over the stern. The C-Dory would be less top heavy and less affected by winds with the pram over the engine than roof top. What do you think?
When we first contemplated buying our 25, we planned on putting our 21' double kayak on the roof. We were going to use the C-Dory to get to remote kayaking locations. After getting the boat and thinking it through, we realized that it wouldn't work well. The kayak was 100#, 21' long and cumbersome.
We now have an 8' inflatable and a 2 hp Honda. The inflatable weighs around 42 lbs. Believe me, getting even 42 lbs on or off of the roof in anything more than a breeze can be a challenge. I love the look of the hard shelled dingys, and they row better than an inflatable. However, I don't think they would work well on the roof of a 22 or 25.
Lyle
We now have an 8' inflatable and a 2 hp Honda. The inflatable weighs around 42 lbs. Believe me, getting even 42 lbs on or off of the roof in anything more than a breeze can be a challenge. I love the look of the hard shelled dingys, and they row better than an inflatable. However, I don't think they would work well on the roof of a 22 or 25.
Lyle
Greetings....I thought I'd chime in on this topic. I've been looking at building a dingy for my 22' dory. I have little wood working skills but I think I found a dingy that may take some time to build but it sure is a nice looking craft. Check it out and let me know what you think. I purchased the plans for the Yacht Tender in a 9' length, @65#'s and max load of 800#s.
http://www.compumarine.com/
Shaun
http://www.compumarine.com/
Shaun
Les Lampman
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Oh boy; I'm going to make friends with this one! :?
If you're older than your mid 20's (ok...mid 30's if you're really fit) you're not going to like getting anything more than about 35 pounds worth of wet and awkward dinghy onto the cabin top of the CD22. And without a lift of some kind a hard dinghy isn't going to work well without bashing the heck out of the C-Dory trying to launch and retrive the dink. When you're standing on dry land with a person at each end a 60-odd pound dinghy seems easy to handle. Trying that out on the water with the boat moving around and leaning oh-so-far over to one side with no way for two people to get a hold of the darn thing is really not a fun thing. The only convenient way I've found to wrestle the dinghy is to have one light enough that I can stand on the foredeck, grab it by its nose, pull it aboard far enough to get some leverage on it over the bow rail and roll it like a big inner tube up onto the cabin top. I dislike handling the dinghy from the cockpit since you're standing too low to get any angle (leverage) on it and once you wrestle it in you have to get the wet thing over your head and pushed forward (yuck!). With camper canvas or a bimini it's a no-go regardless from back aft.
I still think a very light and small dinghy is the best choice; shoot the CD22 is darn near small enough to be a beach boat so I find I'm rarely very far from where I want to be and dinghy trips are short.
A fairly heavy dinghy perched over the engine(s) on a some sort of rack is not a good idea from a weight and balance stand-point; it's about the last place that more weight should go on a CD22.
If you're older than your mid 20's (ok...mid 30's if you're really fit) you're not going to like getting anything more than about 35 pounds worth of wet and awkward dinghy onto the cabin top of the CD22. And without a lift of some kind a hard dinghy isn't going to work well without bashing the heck out of the C-Dory trying to launch and retrive the dink. When you're standing on dry land with a person at each end a 60-odd pound dinghy seems easy to handle. Trying that out on the water with the boat moving around and leaning oh-so-far over to one side with no way for two people to get a hold of the darn thing is really not a fun thing. The only convenient way I've found to wrestle the dinghy is to have one light enough that I can stand on the foredeck, grab it by its nose, pull it aboard far enough to get some leverage on it over the bow rail and roll it like a big inner tube up onto the cabin top. I dislike handling the dinghy from the cockpit since you're standing too low to get any angle (leverage) on it and once you wrestle it in you have to get the wet thing over your head and pushed forward (yuck!). With camper canvas or a bimini it's a no-go regardless from back aft.
I still think a very light and small dinghy is the best choice; shoot the CD22 is darn near small enough to be a beach boat so I find I'm rarely very far from where I want to be and dinghy trips are short.
A fairly heavy dinghy perched over the engine(s) on a some sort of rack is not a good idea from a weight and balance stand-point; it's about the last place that more weight should go on a CD22.
Les I hear you all to loudly on the difficulty of getting that thing up on the cabin. I however frequently use the boat on lakes and I'm sort of a romantic about the late night row I think towing during those trips would be an option. However I do believe that albeit maybe difficult an operation my being in my mid 30's and of above average strength and size I could handle the 65#'s with a little Ingenuity. For some reason a recent quote from ol Arny in CA rings a bell, something about if I wanted easy I'd make movies and have people waiting on me hand and foot and telling me I'm the best. Haha any how thanks for the comment I definitely feel the same way its not the easiest or the best dingy solution....but what a beauty.
Shaun
I think towing during those trips would be an option. However I do believe that albeit maybe difficult an operation my being in my mid 30's and of above average strength and size I could handle the 65#'s with a little Ingenuity. For some reason a recent quote from ol Arny in CA rings a bell, something about if I wanted easy I'd make movies and have people waiting on me hand and foot and telling me I'm the best. Haha any how thanks for the comment I definitely feel the same way its not the easiest or the best dingy solution....but what a beauty.Shaun
Hi All,
We do not have a dink for our C Dory. I am still considering. Has anyony used the cheap light Sevelor Kayaks? I think they make them from vinyl and also a coated fabric. Last year we saw a C Dory with one of the very short dinks sold by West Marine for about 299.00. I was not able to speak with the owners to find out how they liked it.
We have owned several inflatable dinks over the years, but , evan our last 8 footer with the air floor was about 45 lbs. We used this with our Rosborough 245 and it was two man job to load on the top at a dock. I sold it as we felt it was too big for the C Dory.
We do not have a dink for our C Dory. I am still considering. Has anyony used the cheap light Sevelor Kayaks? I think they make them from vinyl and also a coated fabric. Last year we saw a C Dory with one of the very short dinks sold by West Marine for about 299.00. I was not able to speak with the owners to find out how they liked it.
We have owned several inflatable dinks over the years, but , evan our last 8 footer with the air floor was about 45 lbs. We used this with our Rosborough 245 and it was two man job to load on the top at a dock. I sold it as we felt it was too big for the C Dory.
I have two 2-person Seyvlor kayaks, I like them very much, but only in the summer with nice warm water! I wouldn't consider them for a dink to shore and back unless in my swim trunks, a little too tippy and prone to get wet, even from your own paddles! But hey, some people are hardier than I...!
Steve
Steve
We have a Seyvlor Colorado Canoe and we like it but it wasn't cheap. It fits nicely on top of the 25 if you have a low arch, which we did when we bought it. However, since we changed to a high arch we are considering going with a different dinghy. We like the one like David on Anna Leigh has. It looks like it fits perfectly under a high arch and very well porportioned on the 25. It doesn't hang over the top at all that I can remember. David said he hasn't had any problems getting it back on the boat after he's used it, which is something we've been concerned about.