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georgewindsor
Joined: 26 Feb 2020 Posts: 6 City/Region: Longbranch
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:24 pm Post subject: Would like to heat the cabin area on cdory16.. |
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is this possible? The math on a battery supplied heater is not great, maybe 2 hours at 500 w through an inverter.
12v heaters seem to be all garbage...
anyone have a solution? |
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Marco Flamingo
Joined: 09 Jul 2015 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Limpet
Photos: Limpet
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Fishcatcher907
Joined: 05 Apr 2019 Posts: 71 City/Region: Soldotna
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Legacy
Photos: Legacy
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Should my wallas die, I will be installing a cheap Chinese Diesel heater. I might just buy one and hold on to it for that day. Last I looked you Gould get a great one for around $180 _________________ Cheers |
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Marco Flamingo
Joined: 09 Jul 2015 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Limpet
Photos: Limpet
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Fishcatcher907 wrote: | for around $180 |
They are even cheaper now. I paid about $110 with a complete install kit. You have to read through a bunch of advertisements to make sure that you are getting what you need because there is lots of variety. Correct voltage and the right accessories. The tank might not be the size or shape needed. The little mufflers that are included are not for interior space, so you will have to fab one or Webasto has a sealed stainless one for $189 plus shipping (which is why I made mine).
One of the accessories that I looked for was a remote control. The larger control/thermostat is in the main cabin, but the little control fob can be in the V berth on a larger boat. I've been spoiled by the ability to turn on my heat in the morning without getting out of bed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WARMTOO-8KW-12V-Diesel-Air-Heater-LCD-Thermostat-Tank-For-Truck-Boat-Trailer/402098403167?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3396 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Marco Flamingo wrote: | ... The little mufflers that are included are not for interior space, so you will have to fab one or Webasto has a sealed stainless one for $189 plus shipping (which is why I made mine). ... |
Can you provide details on how you made your muffler?
Thanks. |
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Marco Flamingo
Joined: 09 Jul 2015 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Limpet
Photos: Limpet
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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It is made out of scrap copper pipe that I had around, so it might not be as economical for others being as the price of copper pipe has skyrocketed. Basically, it is about 8 inches of 2" copper pipe, two end caps, and 12" of 3/4" copper pipe. A foot of 2" pipe is about $15 and a foot of 3/4" is about $2. Home Depot used to sell small lengths of copper pipe, but I don't know if they still do. Plumbing shop might have short pieces of 2". If you have to buy a 10 foot stick of 2" ($100) the project doesn't pencil out.
Drill a one inch hole in the center of each cap. That fits the exterior of 3/4" copper pipe close enough to solder. Drill about twenty holes around the middle of the 3/4" pipe. These holes have to end up inside of your length of 2" pipe once you put the caps on. Put the 3/4" though a hole in one cap and put that on the 2" tube. Now stuff the 2" tube with fiberglass insulation from your attic around the 3/4" pipe. Put the other cap on and solder it all together.
You have now made a mini-Cherry Bomb glass pack muffler. https://www.amazon.com/Cherry-Bomb-87522-Glasspack-Muffler/dp/B003E5P7EW I actually looked at lawn tractor mufflers before building, but couldn't find anything that fit the diesel heaters exhaust size (24mm) and was something that would last. I was concerned about sheet metal that might rust through and start leaking.
I think it took me longer to type this than to make one.
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Marco Flamingo
Joined: 09 Jul 2015 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Limpet
Photos: Limpet
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at the picture reminded me that I put on an 3/4" elbow for the exhaust connection on one end and a 3/4" coupling on the other. This made the copper pipe a tight fit inside of the stainless exhaust pipe that comes in these kits. I also used high temp silicon under the hose clamps to make sure that I had no exhaust leaks.
Mark |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4664 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Muffler makes it so much quieter. I used/installed one on our Airtronic. You might also consider a "Mr Buddy" or similar propane heater. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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WeekiTiki
Joined: 12 Jun 2019 Posts: 412 City/Region: Weeki Wachee
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Just Cruisin'
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Bought some Kleen Fuel for my Wallas
Got to fire it up
Don't think the thing has ever been lit
and the boat is an '03 _________________ Weeki Wachee
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