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cdory25



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:30 am    Post subject: Horn Reply with quote

My horn sounds like a sick duck. I have read that it can be fixed to sound like new by soaking the diaphragm with spay oil (WD40 or equal). I just don't know exactly where the little bugger is.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:05 am    Post subject: Horn Reply with quote

We have a 23 Venture ours is under the visor/brow above the front windsheilds. A new horn are pretty reasonable. Maybe spring for a new one would be a consideration. Never know when you might really need to be sure the horn will work right?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow it must be weak if you can't find it when you press the switch. Mine sounds like a working towboat's horn. It's under the brow in the middle. May need a swap out. George
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard a good dose of WD-40 will fix that, but have not tried it. Look under the brow, and carry a back up. Canned air, a human powered plastic type, (my fater-in-law used to carry a 3ft piece of conduit) or a conch shell.

I replaced my hailer/fog horn speaker before I knew about the WD-40 trick.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I get out into open water away from other boats I usually give my horn a short test blast every time I go out. This helps keep it from seizing up and comfirms it is working.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we first got our GB, the horn was pathetic. I checked with the GB folks and the told me that most air horns have a fitting to receive oil. Most of the time the fitting is red. I found the fitting, added a couple of drops of 3in1 oil and voila! What a sound.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert H. Wilkinson wrote:
When I get out into open water away from other boats I usually give my horn a short test blast every time I go out. This helps keep it from seizing up and comfirms it is working.

Regards, Rob


Rob,

It is also acceptable practice, though not used often, to do a 1 second horn when leaving a slip, or slipway and entering a fairway, when visibility is hindered. Don't be shy Confused or obnoxious Embarassed

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee wrote:

It is also acceptable practice, though not used often, to do a 1 second horn when leaving a slip, or slipway and entering a fairway, when visibility is hindered.


That's a good point, although I understand the rules to say it would be one prolonged blast, and that it doesn't matter whether visibility is restricted or not when getting underway from a slip - what matters is that you are in inland waters.

There is also one prolonged blast for "blind bend," but that's independent of the "getting underway" function, and it applies to both inland and int'l.

A short blast has to do with altering course to starboard/leaving another boat to port.

A short blast is about 1 second; a prolonged blast is 4-6 seconds. These would be in Rule 34.

a) One prolonged blast
Inland - when getting underway from a dock or berth (forward) (if operating astern propulsion add three short blasts).
Inland and International - when approaching a "blind bend" (could be a blind fairway too).

b) One short blast
Inland - I intend to leave you on my port side (if other boat agrees, answer is the same signal).
International - I am altering my course to starboard
(Also has overtaking applications.)

There is more here:
http://navruleshandbook.com/Rule34.html

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunbeam,

Thank you for the correction. I see this used very infrequently around the marina. At the Ferry dock, yes. I have used it rarely, like when seeing the top of a mast coming down the fairway, and I am waiting at the intersection to enter, and it looks like that mast is starting to come my way, but I know that skipper cannot see me from behind the 40+foot cruiser in the intervening slip.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee wrote:

It is also acceptable practice, though not used often, to do a 1 second horn when leaving a slip, or slipway and entering a fairway, when visibility is hindered. Don't be shy Confused or obnoxious Embarassed

Harvey
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I used to do this routinely when leaving our slip at Everett. Visibility at the main waterway was blocked by large boats tied to the very end of the long dock. One day, as was my practice, I gave a blast out the window on a hand held air horn. This liveaboard guy came up on deck and proceeded to holler at me for interrupting his nap!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dotnmarty wrote:
hardee wrote:

It is also acceptable practice, though not used often, to do a 1 second horn when leaving a slip, or slipway and entering a fairway, when visibility is hindered. Don't be shy Confused or obnoxious Embarassed

Harvey
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I used to do this routinely when leaving our slip at Everett. Visibility at the main waterway was blocked by large boats tied to the very end of the long dock. One day, as was my practice, I gave a blast out the window on a hand held air horn. This liveaboard guy came up on deck and proceeded to holler at me for interrupting his nap!


Marty, give him a "Prolonged Blast". It indicates a "change of status" and it indicates just that... Asleep... To...Awake... Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'll probably be buying a new horn(s). I did the WD 40 trick and it went from the sound of a sick duck (goose actually) to the sound of a Fiat! I need a foghorn. Anyone recommend a good online source? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a robust deep sound without spending a lot of money, you might consider the FIAMM Fultone II. We've had two of them, and I haven't heard a small boat horn that comes close. It is a little more complex, and takes more space than the small electric horns, however. Here's a link:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=FIAMM+fultone+II&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AFIAMM+fultone+II

Our boat was built with one, and it lasted 11-12 years, even mounted improperly - horizontally. Make sure the horns are mounted tilted downward, so that salt spray doesn't get trapped in the horns. Got our second one on eBay for $130.

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