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G Gallagher
Joined: 14 Feb 2010 Posts: 56 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Reel Salty
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject: Trailering motors lifted up or in down( operating mode) |
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Had a trailer it in down position--n interesting and expensive experience last week.
Have been trailering with motors tilted up. My Suzuki manual says don't do that,-- but sometimes I don't listen well. Suzuki is OK- my story is with the 2005 Yamaha 8hp kicker.
Trailered it in tilt position for about a year, but 2 weeks ago I went over a little bump and Oh,Oh. Motor flipped up a little and came back down shearing off the little nubs on the motor bracket that holds motor to transom. Now motor works well but no longer stays tilted up. Ok, into the dealer for the new- order new transom brakets. Parts came in after a week and the bill was $ 563.00 including labor, half the cost of the motor when I bought it.
I think it is fair to say don't trailer with tilted motor!!
Oh, one more lesson.-- With 4 cycle Yamaha if you lay motor down be certain that you do it with the tiller down. If you don't the oil will drain into the cylinders causing the motor to seize up. To fix that re-hang motor, pull plugs, clean them, squirt starter fluid in multiple times until oil is washed out, replace plugs and work to start motor.
What a fun week.
Gary |
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hambone
Joined: 24 Jul 2011 Posts: 265 City/Region: Klamath Falls/Brookings OR.
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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I had a small kicker almost work itself off the transom many years ago leaving it in the tilted position. Never again.
H  _________________ Mike Hamilton / Hambone C-Brat # 4612
Hawg Hunter Productions.
http://www.youtube.com/user/hambone1331?feature=mhee
SEAWOLF 2008 22' TWIN HONDA 50s CRUISER
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2783 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I tilt my kicker up to one of the first stops, then use a strap to secure the leg tightly to the trailer. No reports of bounce, and no damage (to date, cross fingers, knock wood). _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21378 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:31 am Post subject: |
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I also have trailered with kickers tilted up, but always secured them well to a cleat, with a very tight line around the upper part of the outboard. That way they cannot bounce. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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Aurelia
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 2335 City/Region: Gig Harbor
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Not trailering but towing and thats another story. Small tohatsu bounced hard enough to bend the pin that keeps it tilted. Bent pin could not be retracted to get the motor down for operation. I had to remove the bracket and hammer then file the pin straight enough to operate again.
And it was tied tightly with two separate straps at the time limiting its bouncing ability. _________________ Greg, Cindie & Aven
Gig Harbor
Aurelia - 25 Cruiser sold 2012
Ari - 19 Cruiser sold 2023
currently exploring with "Lia", 17 ft Bullfrog Supersport Pilothouse |
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nordicstallion
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 380 City/Region: Crescent City
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 19 Angler
Vessel Name: Rylee Rose
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I use a 2in ratchet strap between the transom tie down, across the kicker below the motor cover, to a u bolt on the forward side of the motor well that is backed up by a 6in sq pc of 1/2 in plywood underneath. I crank that puppy up snug. No way it can bounce. The previous owner used to tow from Sacramento to Bodega Bay with the main bouncing causing tiny hairline cracks on both sides of the transom.First thing I did was add a support bar to the trailer. Im glad he didnt have a kicker! Vern/C-Dog |
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20dauntless
Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 879 City/Region: Mercer Island and Decatur Island
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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I cracked the aluminum mounting bracket for a Yamaha T9.9 kicker twice on a 20 foot Whaler while running the boat. The kicker needed to be tilted up to clear the water, and evidently the bouncing and pounding was too great.
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ferret30
Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 569 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Our new (old) boat currently doesn't have a kicker (we will be getting one soon), but it has an adjustable motor bracket. With this system, it seems like you could lift the motor vertically with the bracket, or tilt the motor itself, to get it out of the water or up for trailering. Which is preferable? |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21378 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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I have tended to either trailer with the engine on one of the stops of the mount, or using a transom saver or a block under the engine (between the mount and engine) to take the load. I would not trailer with the engine just on the hydraulics of the tilt mechanism. |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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thataway wrote: | I have tended to either trailer with the engine on one of the stops of the mount, or using a transom saver or a block under the engine (between the mount and engine) to take the load. I would not trailer with the engine just on the hydraulics of the tilt mechanism. |
An MY Wedge is an option but I warn you, don't forget it is there and try to power tilt the engines down, it's hard rubber and will destroy the t/t cylinder in a heartbeat. Don't ask me how I know or how much it costs with twins!
I have one for sale for the daring and non-forgetful brats for there in the crowdl Make a $$10 donation to the tip jar, pay for shipping and it can be yours. No insurance... (for the t/t mistake)
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
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Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
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Chester
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1176 City/Region: home
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Per Bill and Ell we used a wooden dowel between the motor and mount. This year I substituted a length of 1 1/2" (?) PVC pipe. The engine is snugged down against the pipe compressing it a bit. The stuff is pretty strong, it takes more force than one might suppose. The theory being the unit under tension gives no opportunity for slack to hammer the bits, also hopefully it could lessen any severe shock events. |
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Nunya
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 99
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Used one for years and have never had a problem.
www.m-ywedge.com/ |
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Hugh and Jennifer
Joined: 03 May 2011 Posts: 11 City/Region: Denver
State or Province: NC
C-Dory Year: 2002
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:52 am Post subject: |
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I worry about dragging my prop if I trailer with the motor tilted down. |
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cruiserlessvinny
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Posts: 80 City/Region: Suwanee
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject: motor support |
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I use an oak board cut to appropriate size. The board rests atop the T-n-T rams and snugs against the mounting bracket on one side and against the motor on the other side. Was going to buy a Wedge but realized what the intent of the wedge is and made-do for the price of shop scraps.
CV _________________ I have a classic Whaler. Now I think I want a cruiser. I'm so-o-o-o-o confused. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21378 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hugh,
It depends on ground clearance--actually the skeg will hit first. But for the current C Dory 22, and single axle trailer with 15" tires, with the engine down, there is plenty of ground clearance. Other trailers I have owned, I had to secure the motor up. The Caracal came with a "transom saver"--which is a support which is secured to the trailer frame, with a quick release pin and cradles the lower unit raised up about 45 degrees. |
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