Suzuki break-in/rpm issues.

Matt Gurnsey · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject:

I should post something since my name has come up.

We will certainly take care of the issue. I defer to John in our service department, because he has the most knowledge. Hate it when these new boat things crop up, but that's what the warranty is for.

See you later today Mark!

Wefings · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject:

Ill be betting on the fact that the boat sat unsold but rigged with fuel in it [probably untreated] for a while and the vapor separator is bollixed up . Or a bad bulb . Probably something simple ! But always frustrating on a maiden voyage .
Im sure the Kitsap boys will get her going !
Marc

Pat Anderson · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject:

Mark - it is sure a downer when this stuff crops up, but for sure better now than half way to Friday Harbor!

20dauntless · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject:

Sorry that you have to make the trek back to the dealer. One question...why didn't you take the boat out quickly with the dealer when you took delivery? When we got the C-Dory last spring Master Marine launched it for us (we don't have a trailer) and took it out with us briefly to make sure there weren't any issues. I assume Kitsap would do the same. Perhaps you just didn't have time when you picked up the boat?

starcrafttom · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject:

Larry mentioned the oring and I remember something from my first year on Susan E. We were leaving the dock and idle was just fine but everytime I tryed to power up it died. The fuel connections was on but not ALL the WAY on. It would allow enough gas to enter to run a idle but not at power. I really had to press hard to get the connection to seat on right. Some times its the little things.

localboy · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject:

Just got back home. Man, what a trip that was...once John called I immediately backed the F-250 up, hooked her up and off I went. I left at about 1025 hours. In Everett I noted something wasn't right as the truck seemed to be pulling a VERY heavy boat. Looked in both outside mirrors and all seemed OK. Just as I passed the new Broadway overpass an elderly gent pulls up on the passenger side and begins flagging/waving at me. I look over and he gives me the exagerated "FLAT" and points back...son of a...! Mad

I immediately pull off onto the right shoulder and yep, sure enough the back tire on the passenger side is 100% F.L.A.T. by now. I couldn't see it clearly in the mirror when I had looked back at the heavy feel, but the tire had undoubtadly began flattening then. Of course, I don't have a spare yet; I have one on order but King didn't have the tire in stock last week. THIS IS NOT MY WEEK! Rolling Eyes

So now what? Confused

Well, say what you want about Les Schwab, but their service is quick, professional and reasonably priced. I call 411, locate the nearest LS and the service guy shows up a 1/2 hour later with a new trailer tire. He jacks up the boat, pulls my tire, removes it from the rim right there on the shoulder. Luckily, it was not damaged beyond the 1/8" hole in the center. A plug AND a patch, another half hour and I'm $98 poorer but back on the road.

I made it to Kitsap Marine without further problem. John was there and they are going to hook the engine up to the computer first to diagnose any possible causes and go from there. It indeed could be something simple, or user error Embarassed

or something else. We'll see and I'm confident the fix will be done correctly. Pat, you are correct in that the Lake was a much better place for issues than the Sound and Matt asked if I'm ready for a kicker now. Laughing

I also had John repair/install a few trailer issues that exist; the winch housing was sliding down the mount, making the winch/strap angle too low on the bow saddle. I also noted that the front of the trailer where each side joins into one did not have a roller attached, as the other King trailers in the lot did. This will solve an issue of the brass bow guard possibly hitting the trailer at that point if/when the trailer is backed too far into the water at the ramp. I noted it yesterday, and I saw the fix at the yard. Good insurance against plunking the trailer too deep. The holes are even there on the trailer to mount the roller.

Matt was busy with another customer, so I didn't get a chance to talk to him as I wanted to get back home and knew Tacoma, Seattle and Everett traffic awaited. I'm now going to bed so I can start this day all over again in hopes it'll improve my luck. Wink

thataway · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject:

Agree that it is probably a fuel related issue. C Dory has a history of some bad antisiphon valves. I had a bad one on the Tom cat out of the box--and I know of several others who also did.

If you have the time to spend time with the mechanics it is well worth your time--and down the line after warantees are gone--you can figure out what is wrong yourself.

It can also be something as simple as having wraped some threads with teflon tape, and a small amount of the tape occluding the lumen of the filter intake--

You should be able to spot air in the line with the top off.

Also you could have water in the tank--even with a new boat--which has been sitting around. Also there can be shavings in the fuel lines, a bad vent (not just pluged)--The pickup tube should have a screen over its end, and that can be plugged--again, can be shavings in the tank from thread cutting etc....

Let us know what you find.

When I have a fuel problem, the first place I go to is the bulb, disconnect it, and see what type of flow you get with pumping it alone.

eNORMous · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject:

My money is on Marc:

localboy · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject:

By "vapor seperator" I assume you mean the water/fuel seperator/filter. If so, it's all new. Matt had it installed at Kitsap Marine after we came to an agreement on price etc. Now how long the other fuel was inside I have no idea. I did fill it up and it took about 87 gallons (I had a discount at Fred Meyer for fuel). Hopefully, that won't all go to waste.

Dr. Bob, I'll definately share what is found.

Wefings · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject:

Vapor separator is the high pressure fuel pump in the motor . Supplies the injection system . They dont like to sit over about 6 Mos. with fuel in em .
Marc

Matt Gurnsey · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject:

The boat is here, and as soon as we can break the tech loose, we'll send him over with the three pound sledge and get everything working.

Wink

Bucky · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: Fuel selector;

After I rigged up my new 22', and took it out for sea trials, about the same thing happened to my outboard. Ran fine at idle, but as soon as I pushed up on the throttle, it would quit. Turns out the fuel selector was plumed wrong. Every fuel line was in the wrong place, and it had so much goop in it, it would have blocked fuel flow at high engine speed. Boat is a 2002 22'

Captains Cat · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject:

Mark/Matt, keep us posted. We're all waiting to see what the simple fix was....at least we all hope it's simple and will keep US from problems in the future.

Charlie

journey on · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject:

Geez, Matt, please don't do anything soon. This thing has kept the C-Brats busy all week. Sort of the guess of the hour. If you can keep it going till next week? I mean, you only got the boat today.

Thanks, Boris

jkidd · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:02 am Post subject:

Maybe we should start a pool.