View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Rob & Karen
Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 353 City/Region: Franklin
State or Province: TN
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Life of Riley
Photos: Life of Riley
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: Wiring Supplies - Marine vs. Automotive |
|
|
I will soon be installing an automatic charging relay along with the optional control switch. I will need various sizes and lengths of wire ranging from 16 awg to 10 awg. I will also need several terminals.
Is it necessary to obtain these supplies from a marine supply house such as Defender of West Marine, or will the supplies available from local auto parts stores work? The Marine supplies (particularly the wire) are more than double the price of the automotive supplies.
I am assuming that the answer will probably be that Marine supplies are required, but I thought I would ask before spending the extra money.
Thanks for any input.
Rob |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21380 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
You want tinned, fine stranded wire, plus tinned marine grade connectors. There are places which are cheaper to buy than West Marine. There are some on the internet, and occasinally they are present in local towns. For example National Standard Parts is only a few miles from my house and I drive by their warehouse almost daily.
Jamestown Distributors is another supplier--there are some which are less expensive.
I often buy the spools of wire and crimps by the 25 or 50 pack, because it is so much cheaper, and you always have the stock available when you need it. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
KA6PKB
Home port: Pensacola FL |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It may be just up here, but Napa a lot of this type of stuff too. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5927 City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
Photos: SeaDNA
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
T.R. Bauer wrote: | It may be just up here, but Napa a lot of this type of stuff too. |
Generally they don't have the "tinned, fine stranded wire, plus tinned marine grade connectors" to which Bob refers. This wiring is different than what is used in cars and it holds up better (in particular in a salt water environment). _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
tsturm
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1165 City/Region: Soldotna
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: JMR TOO
Photos: JMR-TOO
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
rogerbum wrote: | T.R. Bauer wrote: | It may be just up here, but Napa a lot of this type of stuff too. |
Generally they don't have the "tinned, fine stranded wire, plus tinned marine grade connectors" to which Bob refers. This wiring is different than what is used in cars and it holds up better (in particular in a salt water environment). |
Napa in Soldotna has Marine grade electrical supplies. Nickle plated fine stranded copper wire in different AWG & terminal connectors.They also have Impellers & Float switches & Bilgepumps & stainless screws & fittings & hinges etc etc! And Marine starters & alternators & (Kenai) a hydraulic shop for the real boats 
Maybe its an Alaska thing?
Have a good one!! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5927 City/Region: Kenmore
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
Photos: SeaDNA
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
|
|
Maybe it is just an "Alaska thing"? Do they also carry wood chips for the smoker?  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
The hardware/general store/universal emporium/U-Name-It-U-Got-It-Joint type of stores featured in Alaskan communities that are not exactly metropolitan megaloposies often have a lot of marine stuff intermixed with all the other survival gear necessary for rural living and boating.
The best selection of boat heater types on display I've ever seen was in a Ketchikan hardware store down on the waterfront. Noting like this in California!
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous
Last edited by Sea Wolf on Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:23 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Valkyrie
Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 1028 City/Region: Loudonville
State or Province: OH
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Valkyrie II
Photos: Valkyrie
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
Definitely go with the marine grade. When Valkyrie was less than a year old we had a number of electrical problems and a local repair outfit with a recommended electrical guru traced the problem to the use of automotive grade wiring and fuse boxes. And except for two weeks in the Chesapeake for our shakedown cruise, Valkyrie had not been in salt water at that time. Since they were replaced with marine grade - no problems.
Pay for the good stuff!
Nick
"Valkyrie" |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
SENSEI
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1067 City/Region: Stanwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: SENSEI
Photos: SENSEI and SERENITY
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
most NAPA stores can have the marine grade next day if they don't have it in stock. when I rewired Sensei I bought
all the electrical suplies there. _________________ Roger on the "SENSEI"
1983 22 Classic (acquired 1995)
1995 25 Cruiseship (sold 2012)
1993 22 Cruiser (sold 2014)
1995 22 Angler (acquired 2016)
1983 22 Classic (sold 2017) |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
tsturm
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1165 City/Region: Soldotna
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: JMR TOO
Photos: JMR-TOO
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
rogerbum wrote: | Maybe it is just an "Alaska thing"? Do they also carry wood chips for the smoker?  |
Safeway 
Last edited by tsturm on Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:26 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
GOYO
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 76 City/Region: Bonney Lake
State or Province: WA
Photos: GOYO
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
Interesting that this thread came up. I was on amazon.com and saw a very complete selection of ancor marine grade wire and connectors. Very suprised to see that on amazon. _________________ Steve & Beledia
Goyo 07 CD25- sold 11/10 |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
marvin4239
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 1165 City/Region: Jacksonville Florida/Wilmington NC
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-FLE II
Photos: C-FLE II
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Our local Home Depot carried Ancor marine grade terminals and wire for quite a while. I guess they decided to no longer carry Ancor and put all their Ancor stuff on sale to get rid of it. They had some great deals on small spools of wire typically at 1/4 the price of West Marine. May be worth checking your local Home Depot. _________________ marvin |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
Photos: Journey On
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Just a comment on NAPA. This summer we were up in Wisconsen, at Lake Superior. The bow roller gave up on the trailer, and I went to a boat deler to get a new roller. No soap. Finally went to a NAPA store in Munising, Michigan, desperate. When I asked for the bow roller, 7 1/2", the answer was "black or yellow?" When the town is too small to support a boat supply, NAPA takes up the slack. And does a good job.
Local knowledge.
Boris |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
gljjr
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 908 City/Region: Fall City
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1982
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Migratory Dory
Photos: gljjr
|
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Napa has a full marine catalog that you can get on request. I actually picked one up for finding parts for my old 27'. Most of the items in that catalog can be gotten within a few days if they don't have them at their distributor.
After having to rewire my sled's lights and dashboard due to the use of it in the salt, there is no way I would ever use non-marine grade electrical parts on a boat. _________________ Gary Johnson
KB7NFG |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|